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Things that tend to piss me off...

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Nick, May 9, 2002.

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  1. May 9, 2002 #1 of 20

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    I may never fly again, at least on an airplane. I have almost no tolerance for persons of obviously lesser intellgence being in a position of authority and control over me. Such conditions are patently manifest at airports, where ignorant, clueless security dolts are hindering, harassing and embarassing the travelling public under the guise of performing security checks.

    An outrageous example is the airport security checkpoint incident where an elderly WWII veteran and hero, wearing his Congressional Medal of Honor, was stopped by security personnel and taken aside.

    He was searched and they found the medal hanging on a red, white and blue ribbon around his neck. The idiots, not having a clue as to what it was, made the old man remove it, along with certain items of appearal. Then the security dolts declared the medal to be a potential weapon because it had points around its circumference.

    It took over 45 minutes, a security supervisor and an airport official to straighten out the mistake. During this embarassing ordeal, the frail 85 year-old war hero was reduced to tears by his intense embarassment, frustration and feelings of humiliation.

    Because of the unnecesary delay, the long-retired Army General missed his flight, and was late arriving at his destination, Washington, D.C., where he and other vets were to be honored for their distinguished service to America.

    Nick :smoking:
  2. May 9, 2002 #2 of 20

    Martyva Guest DBSTalk Gold Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    So what's your point?
  3. May 9, 2002 #3 of 20

    James_F Damn you woman! DBSTalk Gold Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    If he had taken if off like all the signs say, then he wouldn't have had that trouble. I travel over 250,000 miles a year and have seen it all at these checkpoints. Its not that hard, if it might set off the detector, then put it on the xray. Its not that hard, I have no sympathy for people to can't handle the rule. Just because 30 years ago he didn't have to take it off doesn't mean that he is grandfathered. I don't even wear my watch anymore. But I've made the adjustment and everyone else should too.

    I completely agree with you that this is stupid, but you get what you pay for. Most of these people never finished High School and we are trusting them for our security?
  4. May 9, 2002 #4 of 20


    I doubt that very much James. Most jobs nowadays require a high school grad or GED equivalent.
    Arizona might not require this but most of the rest of the nation does.
    Now wipe that Karl Malone look alike grin of your Arizona face.

    In light of the events of 911 things suddenly got tighter. It's a fact of life.
  5. May 9, 2002 #5 of 20

    James_F Damn you woman! DBSTalk Gold Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    Ok, I'll give you GED, but they haven't eliminated all the employees yet, just the criminals.

    Airport Crriminals

    The Homeland Security office says that it might take until November to get all the airport security up to what Congress wants. Airport security was up to the individual airlines before 9-11, but now its a national issue. Arizona has nothing to do with it.

    GAO Report on Airport Security

    That would be Barry Bonds.
  6. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    Let's take a look at the airports since 9/11.....

    Problem: Arabs allegedly hijacked four airliners (at 20% capacity when they are always overbooked for these popular routes) with box cutters and crashed them into buildings. We'll assume this is true for the sake of this argument.

    Reaction: Putting troops into every airport and for what? Were there any roving gun battles at any of our airports? No. So why were they put there? Why is there an increased "security" presence? Why is the government harassing every passenger that goes on every plane when the bad guys were Arabs? Why is the government treating every passenger the same when the enemies are Arabs and they don't scrutinize them because it would be racial profiling?

    I'll tell you why.... the government is your enemy. This is a stage that will get you use to a police state better known as the 4th Reich in my circles. They are getting you people use to a military presence there which will be expanded to the streets by Homeland defense after the next attack.

    Why is this government harassing every american when the so called Arab terrorist is the enemy? The answer to that is the american people are the enemy to this occupational government. Why was a reporter and her 12 year old daughter stripped search when they weren't Arabs?

    "ASPEN, Colo. - A 14-year-old boy believes he got sick because airport security personnel made him take a drink from a bottle of untreated stream water he wanted to carry on an airplane so he could take it to school.
    Security measures added since Sept. 11 require that passengers drink from liquids they are taking on an aircraft to prove the liquids are not dangerous, said Mike Fergus, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration"

    Was this 14 year old boy an Arab and a danger of hijacking a plane and then run it into a building? There are many other nightmare stories like this. They made this poor little boy drink this water while they probably won't check under the towel on an Arab's head because that would be racial profiling?

    Are you people really this stupid? This so called security is to get you use to a police state, period! However they will never call it a police state. They will call it SECURITY!

    If the threat is really Arabs then why don't they close the borders? They say they are checking the borders but they are lying. Many border patrol people quit from what I heard to become air marshals because it pays better!

    If the Arabs are the enemy then why did we let 50,000 of them enter this country since 9/11?
    U.S. Keeps Issuing Visas to 'Watch List' Arabs

    If the Arabs are the enemy then why didn't we ban the Arabs and other muslims from flying the airlines like the Chinese did? Instead, 6 weeks after 9/11 we let these muslims report to this country and enter into our flight schools. I posted the link here.

    Look at the above link! They let 50,000 more Arabs into this country that are on the watch list after the fact. The government is not protecting you. The government is putting you at risk and will take advatege of the future terror by these people by putting you into a police state. They are going to steal everyone of your freedoms. They are going to have UN troops kill your family if you resist the NWO. We already have NATO radar planes flying over this country and in the near future they will have Slav countries flying fighter jets over this country. The UN troops are already here and ready to gun you down and rape your wife and children.

    They are poisoning you with the chem-trails everyday over the nation by the spray-planes. They are putting fluoride into your water. They are letting aspartame into your soft drinks and your food. They are giving your children poison with vaccination shots. They have death camps ready to put you in if you refuse their vaccination after a biological attack real or imagined. Homeland security has over 80,000 american troops ready to put roadblocks on just about every road. You will not be able to travel 25 miles without the proper papers.

    What this government has planned for you will make Hitler and the 3rd Reich look like a cakewalk. All in the name of SECURITY!

    Here's another link about this government who made a 14 year old american drink creek water for your security.

    Get your head out of the sand and see the evil which this beast government and the UN have in store for you!
  7. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    I can give you horror story after horror story about the airports.
    Welcome to the New World Order!

    Atrocities In American Airports

    From Guy Williams 5-5-2


    The following occurred to a friend of mine...


    If you, or someone from your family, have any plan to visit the US in a near future, I strongly suggest you to continue reading this text, where I describe the experiences I had in LA International Airport, late Feb 24, 2002.

    My name is Ricardo Abude E. Da Silva, I'm an Electronic Engineer graduated in 1982 and today am managing our family's businesses in the farming sector. My email is ricabude@cpunet.com.br .
    Throughout my 42 years of age I've travelled several times to the US, both on business and tourism. Late Feb 23 I embarked in Rio heading to LA, in possession of my third Visa to the US, issued in November 1999, and valid until November 2009.

    I was aware of the increased airport security for US trips, due to Sep 11 attacks, and in Rio International Airport one can already notice the routine change, but I could have never imagined what would happen next.

    From now on I describe, step by step, the horrendous and unimaginable nightmare that I went through :

    Saturday Feb 23 21:50 hrs I depart from Rio with Varig flight RG 8836, going to LA.

    Sunday Feb 24 07:00 hrs I arrive in LA and proceed towards passport control. The officer looks at my Passport for about five minutes, and asks me to proceed towards an INS office known as 'Secondary One'. It is the first time something like that happens to me, but I imagine I´m going to be interviewed for additional
    information concerning my stay. 'Extra safety measures....' I thought.

    Sunday Feb 24 07:30 hrs A Second officer asks me to collect all my luggage and accompany him inside Secondary One. "...the interview is going to be in there." I thought again. All of a sudden, I am brutally pushed inside a 2x2 yd cell, all my luggage, money,
    documents and personnal belongings are confiscated, and they takeaway my belt and shoe strings. As I protest against the unexpected treatment, the two officers respond with loud screams and threats of beating me and keeping me confined. I am violently pushed against the wall, they frisk me from head to toe, and all my
    personnal belongings are searched. Again I´m pushed against the wall, my picture is taken, I'm fingerprinted and am finally thrown into a filthy, stinky, unventilated hall, already crowded with people.
    I notice, by their looks, that they've gone through the same 'ritual', and even though I am still stunned by the long flight, the jet lag, and mainly by the violent, outraging disrespect of civil and human
    rights, I face the crude fact of life "there's no such thing as interviews - I'm a prisoner."

    Sunday Feb 24 09:00 hrs The scene resembles a Greek tragedy, a 4x4 yd room, filthy chairs, a stinking black carpet, no ventilation, huge 50" TV turned on all the time volume blasting. Tired, hungry people, sick people, people throwing up....worried about a friend,
    who was waiting for me outside the airport I ask for a phone call.

    - "Shut-up! No phone calls." - They answered.

    Sunday Feb 24 10:00 hrs Arrested, hungry, thirsty, no
    communication, and without the slightest ideia of what was going to happen next, I noticed the continuos flow of tourists coming to our cell and I face the degrading scandal the very same treatment is given to women, teenagers, children even elderly people a truly
    barbarian act ! Revolted, I witness two INS officers arguing over the priviledge of frisking the prettiest ladies, without any concern of hiding their sickening lust from their respective fathers, husbands or brothers, doing their commentaries, invitations, and
    obscene declarations right on their faces.

    - "I've just frisked a disgusting latino....now it's my turn to frisk this Italian fox !" stated an Officer to his coleague, refering to the wife of an Italian tourist. The blunt disrespect made my stomach churn in revolt....

    Kicking, pushing, screaming, threathening, heavily armed bullies displayed their brutallity, prejudice, and arrogance upon the constant flow of tourists coming into our cell, getting more and more crowded by the minute, holding an unbearable stench....

    Sunday Feb 24 14:00 hrs After seven hours of ordeal, I'm finally taken to an almost surrealistic "interview" with Officer Sanchez, and Officer Lee, both subor dinate to Officer Green, from INS. He "explains" to me that since all my papers and my Visa were in perfect order, he would "kindly" give me two options :

    - The first was to sign a document in which I "requested" the withdrawal of my Visa, returning to Brazil in the first available flight.

    - If I refused to sign the hoax I'd be arrested for an undetermined period and he'd start a compulsory deportation process, sending me back to my Country thus.

    A important detail on the "deal" - so long as I refused to sign the document I'd not receive any food, or water. What would you choose? Oh well, me, too.

    Sunday Feb 24 16:00 hrs I am taken, with another five "prisoners" to a different cell. We are all handcuffed, and escorted by armed officers, we are made to stroll through the airport lounge. The terrified tourists make way, frightened by the grotesque scene.
    They take us all to a van, parked outside the terminal, and transfer us to the other cell. The humiliation is suffocating ....

    - Sunday Feb 24 17:00 hrs Apparently, they have forgotten to make me sign a few forms at the Secondary One, so I'm taken again for a couple of strolls ( going there and coming back ) in the Airport Lounge. Those strolls remember are with cuffs and 'escorts.'

    Sunday Feb 24 18:00 hrs Due to my unceasing protests, they finally allow me to make a phone call. I contact a Lawyer in LA, in the hope he´d get me out of that hell, but the information I get from him is even more surprising, and disheartening:

    - "Ricardo, the INS grounds at the Airport are not legally considered American soil, so I cannot invoke any civil right to take you out of there..." he tells me. How about that ???

    In other words, I realize I'm in a no-man's land, a lawless place, arrested by arbitrary Nazis in the guise of INS Officers, that, due to this legal technicality, have the power to do whatever they please with you and what is worse with your family. I start to dream of
    the moment of catching a plane back home to Bazil.....however, before that, I'd still have to go through the worst night of my life.....

    Night of Sunday to Monday Feb 25 I start to dread the moment in which tiredness is going to win the battle and make me lie down on those filthy chairs. It´s very cold, but even so, the prospect of using the slimy blankets is not at all attractive. Five officers are in the night shift, and feeling bored, they pass time kicking "disgusting
    Chinese", cursing "stupid niggers", threatening "filthy latinos". Our uneducated officers are unable to articulate three consecutive words without using the "F.." word, and we spend the night immersed in this sea of racial prejudice, brutallity, violence, arrogance and cowardice.

    A curious note : our cell had two immense posters hanging on the walls. Look at that one was a huge map of Brazil, and the other was a picture of Ouro Preto, an historical city in Central Brazil.
    Both seemed to convey a silent, but eloquent invitation .....

    Monday Feb 25 13:00 hrs After the worse 30 hours of my life, two
    armed officers escort me to my plane ( Varig flight RG 8837 ) and
    deliver my passport to the stewardess. They set guard by the plane
    door until take off. Just a last minute humiliation I guess....

    Tuesday Feb 26 07:30 hrs I arrive tired, but immensely happy in
    Cumbica International Airport, in SP. I call my girlfriend Sarah in
    Belo Horizonte. After her recovery from the initial shock and the
    necessary explanations I invite her to celebrate our unexpected
    meeting with a trip to Ouro Preto, of course!

    I relate this unfortunate episode hoping to bring these facts to light, to a wider number of people. Maybe those who, like me, were planning an innocent trip to this country might think twice before permitting their wifes, parents and children to be subjected to this
    infamous tribe of uncivilized barbarians. Daily, in every American Airport, hundreds of people from the four corners of the world are falling into the claws of these arrogant, racist, brutes, barbarian Nazis, and I think every single citizen of the globe shall contribute in whichever way they can to end this grotesc stain from the face of the free world.

    The terrorists put down WTC twin towers, but they will achieve a far greater victory if they succeed in bending down the spirit, the values and ideals that guided America since it's very birth as an independent Nation.

    Having visited the US so many times, and knowing with reasonable depth the history of this Country, I must say that the attitudes and methods of the INS Officers do not reflect the way of being and thinking of the majority of the American People, and surely do not
    reflect the values and ideals I referred to above. However, the overwhelming majority of the thousands of tourists that are going daily through this sad experience in American Airports do not have this perspective, and they are going back to their countries carrying in their hearts the seeds of hatred, violence and intolerance that end up germinating in tragedies such as Sep 11.

    To Mr G. Bush one suggestion: in the attempt to erradicate the World of terrorism and it's "Evil Axis", start at home in the American Immigration and Naturalization Service INS.

    A very important note: this narrative would not be complete without doing justice to Victor, one of the INS officers. He came into our cell Monday morning. Right when I lay my eyes on him I noticed a different glow, quickly explained by his attitudes he'd take care of one of us, feed and give water to another, he was
    always ready to help, at least send a smile, say a friendly word....
    He moved like a star, shedding light into the darkness. I had the priviledge to talk with him for a few minutes, when I had the chance to convey my admiration, respect and gratitude for what he was doing for all those people, brutally subjected to such a painful
    experience. Son of Mexican Immigrants, educated in India, and possessing a spirituality impossible to hide behind such shinning eyes, this man, who represents so well the best of the East and the West told me simply "Ricardo, I don't do much, all I can do is try to transmit to these people a little compassion, a little love...."

    May God always guard you and bless you Victor, as you guard and bless so many.... A last suggestion to the US President: consider promoting Victor to the post of Foreign Relations Minister, what he deserves more than anyone. I'm certain that, in a very short time, he'd reverse the already beaten up image of the US with the rest of the world. His attitude reflect perfectly the spirit and the values that have created America, and proves that one cannot possilbly combat terrorism by becoming himself a terrorist one should employ that ancient technique: turning the other cheek.

    Finally, I want to say that I have already done the following :

    * Filed a formal complain at the American Embassy in Brasilia.

    * Filed a formal complain at the Brazilian Foreign Affairs Ministry

    * Send a copy of this text in Portuguese and in English to the
    Internet, newspapers, magazines, websites, and Human Rights
    International Institutions.

    * I hereby authorize any individual or corporation to divulge or reproduce this text partially or in its entirety, making it a public domain, as I believe this case is.

    May God bless us all.

    Ricardo Abude E. da Silva
  8. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    There are many, many other stories where the government made protesters from the left miss flights to go protest and exercise their Bill of Rights. This country will make the third Reich look like paradise very, very soon.
  9. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Here we go again.....
    I am very happy that "your circles" are a very small group of whackos that is not taken seriously by anyone with the common sense of a two year old. By the way, where does your circle hold it's secret meetings? Is there a secret handshake to get in? :shrug: I thought you said that you were no longer going to post on the internet. You stated something about it not being any fun anymore. Put the bottle away and go take your pills.
  10. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    And to think that my own brother was a lawyer before he became a judge.

    I guess it's time to put in HoJo's with free room and board across the Arizona desert so that these poor people don't die while illegally entering the country. :mad: Where has common sense gone? The lawyers who take these cases should be disbarred. The trouble is they will probably win.
  11. Geronimo

    Geronimo Native American Potentate DBSTalk Gold Club

    Mar 23, 2002
    What is it that you think they should do? round up all Arabs?
  12. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    I am very happy that "your circles" are a very small group of whackos that is not taken seriously by anyone with the common sense of a two year old. By the way, where does your circle hold it's secret meetings? Is there a secret handshake to get in? I thought you said that you were no longer going to post on the internet. You stated something about it not being any fun anymore. Put the bottle away and go take your pills.

    You know what, Rking? You talk a good game but the only thing you do is call people names because you're void when it comes to the issues. You don't have a leg to stand on. Your "cute" name calling won't work here because most here (I assume) are above the GDP level.

    The fact is that we are moving fast towards a police state which I call the fourth Reich and I've been giving supporting news links here for months although I quit about a month or so. What do you have behind you? Absolutely nothing other than childish name calling. You never went head to head intellectually with me because you aren't capable of doing so. You are not cute when you mention black helicopters because they are real and I told you where to check them out and what they were. There is one on display at Fort Cambell (I believe) which is located on the Tennessee and Kentucky border. These are multi-national, multi-jurisdictional task force (thus no marks of a nation or agency) which will be used when the NWO gives them the go ahead to suppress uprisings anywhere in the world. The video there with the display states this.

    The bottom line is that you're nothing but an empty-headed, blowhard windbag.
  13. Bogy

    Bogy Hall Of Fame

    Mar 23, 2002
    Rage, you can't believe video! Only eye-witness accounts are worth anything today. And only if its my eyes.
  14. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Blowhard windbag? Me? :rolleyes: Who is it who has been injecting pages and pages of his whacko consperacy crap here?

    Tell you what, since you are such an "expert" on this, please inform us all about what the solution to this crap is. Rather than sit there at your computer and enter this crap, give us the solution to the "problem".
  15. Nick

    Nick Retired, part-time PITA DBSTalk Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    Don't forget the "empty-headed" part, Richard. :lol: :lol: :lol:
  16. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    Blowhard windbag? Me? Who is it who has been injecting pages and pages of his whacko consperacy crap here?

    Yep! Not me. I've been posting "I told you so" news stories that I've been telling people about for years on the net. It's nothing special on my part other than reading their plans over the years along with some of the Bible.

    I can sit here all day and give you people depressing news stories but haven't due to lack of time and interest here from what I see. There will be a NWO and the antichrist will rule over it. The Bible states that not just me. I'm nothing. Read the Bible and the NWO publications and papers and you'll see what I've seen for years.

    Tell you what, since you are such an "expert" on this, please inform us all about what the solution to this crap is.

    Well... if this is the end then there is nothing to do other than get right with the God of the Holy Bible. If this is not the end then repent and hope God stops the coming 4th Reich and stops your family from being killed.

    Rather than sit there at your computer and enter this crap, give us the solution to the "problem".

    I have over the years but people won't like it because it goes against everything you've been brainwashed with and it would take a great deal of sacrifice by just about everybody to change things around and the price would be financial ruin and a lot of blood. This culture won't do it and we're out armed unlike the people during the Revolutionary War and the Civil War.
  17. Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Who's been brainwashed?
  18. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    Rage, you can't believe video! Only eye-witness accounts are worth anything today. And only if its my eyes.

    Bogy, please put it in context so people know what you're talking about and to save me time. :mad:

    I mailed him the story from the Boston newspaper: MIT Invents Videos Of People Saying Things They Never Said

    "In one demonstration, the researchers taped a woman speaking into a camera, and then reprocessed the footage into a new video that showed her speaking entirely new sentences, and even mouthing words to a song in Japanese, a language she does not speak. The results were enough to fool viewers consistently, the researchers report."


    I then told Bogy that I haven't trusted video since I seen the movie Forest Gump.

    Who's been brainwashed?

    Not me. My predictions have been hitting the nail on top the the head and I've been giving links to prove it.

    Let's take a look back at this thread. Nick complained about the airports and I reposted a brilliant post of mine in the past that accurately describes the situation which includes the problem and the so called solution about airport security since 9/11 and put holes in it.

    Then I posted a story and told you that I could post many of these kind of nightmare (police state) stories at airports across the nation. Like I said... I've been giving links here for months and what have you done for this forum or country?

    Put the bottle away and go take your pills.

    Yeah, you're really cool, Rking. That's some heavy ammo and it really discredits me.:lol:

    Like I said... you're an empty-headed, blowharded windbag with no substance. If the above is the best that I could come up with to "attack" somebody, then I would stick my head between my tail and run for cover instead of making myself look like a moron.
  19. markh

    markh Hall Of Fame

    Mar 24, 2002
    I wonder if the first President Bush ever regrets uttering the phrase "New World Order" in a speech. I'm sure he thought it was just a throw away line.

    IIRC, the new world order was going to mean that the U.S. would do whatever we damn well pleased and Saddam should behave himself. Instead a whole lot of people jumped on it and turned it into Rage's meaning.

  20. Rage

    Rage Fromer Member

    Aug 19, 2001
    "I wonder if the first President Bush ever regrets uttering the phrase "New World Order" in a speech. I'm sure he thought it was just a throw away line."

    Hardly. He said it over 200 times so there goes your theory.
    The CIA created Saddam along with Osama and Bush Sr. was banking partners with Saddam with the B.I.C.C which I've documented here a few times. And Bush Jr. was partners with Salem Bin Laden before he died or was killed (murdered) in the plane "crash". And Bush Sr. still makes over 2 million a year from the Carlyle group which the Laden family is behind. The Times of India reported back in June that we were going to war with the Taliban and Powell was over there trying to drum up support. I got facts behind what I say.

    The Bush family has been one of the most corrupt crime families ever in the US and FDR had to impose "trading with the enemy" sanctions against them which I documented here also. The Bush family are criminals, period.
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