Thinking of switching from Dish Network

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  1. LJR

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    I need to know how many shows you can record at the same time. It says up to five, but what if three TVs are on? If those three tuners are being used, can you still record five shows?
    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm lost... what the topic said?
     
  3. jimmie57

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    Correct. The live TVs playing would use a tuner each and be deducted from the number of recordings in addition to the live TVs that could be recorded.
    On an HR44, HR54 that would leave 2 tuners for recording.
    On the new Genie 2 ( HS17 ) some say it has 7 tuners. If this is correcct then you would have 4 left to record with.
     
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  4. jimmie57

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    If you have to have more tuners, get a 44 or 54 and they will work with the HR24 which have 2 tuners each. The cost per month is no more than the way you lined it out originally but the installation cost would be about 300 higher for the other 3 DVRs.
     
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  5. RBA

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    Reread the question it is about DISH.
     
  6. studechip

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    No, it's about switching from Dish to Directv and how Directv recording works.
     
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  7. Rich

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    Why do you want to switch?

    Rich
     
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  8. Janice805

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    LOL. Rich, I was thinking the same thing.
     
  9. techguy88

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    Programming wise there is a multitude of reasons one might switch from Dish to DirecTV. Less local channel blackouts, has HBO/Cinemax, has RSNs that Dish has either dropped (Fox Sports, Altitude, NBC Sports Chicago) or decided not to carry (Spectrum SportsNet LA, Marquee Sports Network), etc.
     
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  10. LJR

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    I’ve been thinking about it since they dropped HBO and Cinemax, but it really pissed me off when they dropped NFL Network. Thankfully, NFL Net is back.
    There are two main reasons why I won’t switch... one, you can only record up to 5 shows at once on DTV, compared to Dish’s 16.
    And two,, I have over 250 movies on two backup HDs that I couldn’t watch with DTV.
     
  11. Rich

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    I would like to get my hands (and tools) on a Hopper. I don't know what I'd do with 16 tuners at this point, but that interests me.

    Rich
     
  12. LJR

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    It also uses just one tuner to record all primetime channels (ABC, NBC, FOX and CBS) from 8pm-11pm automatically.
     
  13. Rich

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    Most important question I can ask: How big is the drive in the Hopper, assuming it's an HDD? Gotta be at least 2TBs which, I would think, is too small to support 16 tuners. I know from experience 2TB drives are too small for a Genie, with 5 tuners. If you record just about everything you're interested in. As I used to do.

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    There was a point in my life where that would have been used every night of the week. That is a wonderful option to have.

    Rich
     
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  15. James Long

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    Unfortunately the 16 tuners wouldn't do you much good unless you paid for DISH service. :)

    There are a few technologies that I wish DIRECTV and DISH shared. DISH's closest step toward SWM is the Hopper 3 and Hybrid LNB. They finally have a way to feed 16 random transponders over the same cable (possibly 24, but the Hopper 3 tunes 16) and they use it to feed one receiver. (There is an MDU setup where DISH will feed 8 smaller "Wally" receivers - originally single tuner but now supported as dual tuner receivers - one record, one live IIRC.) Not doing something like SWM earlier is one of the technological failings of DISH, in my opinion.

    But having a receiver that outputs 4K (no separate client required) plus uses 4K to add features such as the sports bar mode (put four HD channels on the screen within a 4K picture) and having, as you noted, 16 tuners on one receiver is certainly good.

    The hard drive is not huge ... multiple tuners help with "conflict free" recording. Just set a timer and it records whether or not you are watching something else live or recording other content. Sure, someone is going to exceed the limit - but with 16 tuners it will be much more rare than on systems with less tuners. The good news on hard drives is that when the space fills just add an external drive for additional space. Note the word "add" not "substitute". And the externals are tied to the account not the machine so if you replace the Hopper 3 the external content still works on the new box (or if you upgrade from another Hopper or most older DVRs).
     
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    It’s 2TB, but it has two usb ports to plug in backup HDs. So the size is almost limitless. I have a 500GB and a 2TB backup HD with almost 300 movies.
     
  17. Rich

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    Sounds wonderful. I wish I had a use for such a DVR.

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  18. compnurd

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    But there is a problem there. While yeh it is awesome the H3 can output 4KHDR. The 4K Joey can’t output HDR. Where as with directv the clients do both
     
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  19. James Long

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    So with just a Hopper 3 you get 4K HDR ... with just a HR54 you get HD (no 4K).
    With a Hopper 3 + 4K Joey you get 4K HDR on one set and 4K on the other (actually others since one can have multiple 4K Joeys all putting out 4K simultaneously).
    With a HR54 you can have 4K HDR on one client and no 4K at all on any other client or receiver.
    With a HS17 you can have two 4K HDR on clients and that maxes out the system. No additional tuners or 4K feeds at all.

    I wish the Joeys did 4K HDR ... but with a HR54 DIRECTV subscribers are still limited to one 4K HDR output at a time. On a client with no PIP or custom multiscreen.
     
  20. compnurd

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    The HS17 does not max out with just two 4K feeds. I have no issues with my 6 clients. 2 watching channel 104 and the other 4 watching TV
     

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