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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by chrisfowler99, Sep 1, 2007.
Hmmmm....isn't ESPN affiliated with ABC....hmmmm....same with the Richmond, Va DMA
the reason why you can't watch the game on 210 in HD is bc D* doesn't carry an HD ESPN ALTERNATE channel ..
this is not the first nor will it be the last time it happens ..
too which i subscribe to ESPN GP
It was my understanding that even if the 'rights holder' (such as your local ABC station) chooses not to show the game that they still hold the right and the blackout rules apply - in other words it still can't be shown elsewhere.
Of course, that in no way would explain the alternate ESPNa. I have no idea how that works....
Well...that's the first explanation that makes sense. Of course, this is assuming that neither game in my region is in HD, or if it was, directv doesnt have the bandwidth to carry all of these alternate hd games.
My anger is definitely going down.
Directv needs to do a better job explaining that. All they needed to say is that directv does not carry your regional games in hd, and that is why ESPNHD is blacked out.
Well, I called and spoke to a CSR and here is what I was told.
When you have cable the cable company only gives you the feeds that are in your market. You get USA, The Weather Channel, ESPN, Etc. for your region.
DIRECTV broadcasts nationally, but must still respect the regional boundaries. That is why there and alternates to ESPN, and why you are only allowed to watch certain ones.
I am also in the St. Louis DMA and it is blockout on both HD and SD. Also, the local ABC station is not carrying the game that is on ESPN. But, I am close enough to a station in Carterville, IL ABC station and I can get the game that is on ESPN from my OTA in HD.
Makes no sense to me.
What is clear is that Directv is blocking ESPN nation-wide. This looks like a technical mistake since the games are available on the Alternative ESPN channels. Except I can only get it in SD not HD.
Which is yet another reminder that Directv seems to be cheating me out of HD in the "Year of the HD". 9 months after the announcement my brother get 4 TIMES MORE HD content on DISH!
Here's the thing:
If you live in the following markets then you will be watching the Wake Forest vs Boston College game on 206 and 72:
WA, OR, CA most of ID, Eastern half of the Midwest Region, Northeast Region, Most of the Southeast Region except for AR and LA
If your DMA is located outside of the areas mentioned above you will be blacked out on 206/72 and watch the alternate game on 210 with no HD .. AND if you want to watch the Wake Forest vs Boston College game you have to order ESPN GAMEPLAN
Here in the Cleveland DMA on ESPN now I have the WF vs BC game in HD no blackout. My local ABC has the Wisconsin game. ESPN2 has the Missouri Vs Illinois game on.
I've got GP With 6 games. Call D & traten to cancel!
Isn't Ohio in the Northeast Region? That's why you watch the games on the channels that you are watching.
That's the part that doesn't make sense.
If they can show it on ESPNa, why not just open up that game on ESPN so we can see it in HD?
Because it's still a REGIONAL game for those areas .. stop thinking "ESPN is national channel" and start realizing that ESPN can carry regional games that are subject to blackouts - just like some MLB games, NBA games. D* has nothing to do with this, man.
ESPN HD Alternate is not a channel. Do you think it's just going to appear this year when it hasn't in the past?
Know your games and learn where to find them.
Thats the rules for Big 10 country yes.
I know there is no ESPN HD Alternate. I haven't claimed there is.
But it makes no sense to me that ESPN can show a game on an alternate channel in SD that they cannot show on ESPN in HD in my region.
If I'm blacked out, shouldn't I be blacked out?
If I can get the game at all, from ESPN, shoudn't I be able to get the game in HD?
According to this thread:
It looks like it is blacked out on Dish Network as well....
So... it is apparent that ESPN (or whom ever), sent the list of Zip Codes to the providers on whom should be blacked out.
agreed, directv currently does not have enough room to carry all of the alternates in HD.
But, if you turn it to channel 73 (blackout), directv could go a LONG way in describing why you dont see anything.
Here in the Boston area, the Boston College game is blacked out on ESPN but it is on the ABC affiliate in HD.
Not entirely true. BC/WF is blacked out on ESPN here in Florida (Southeast), but was on in HD on my ABC local. I don't ever recall an ESPN game being blacked out before, but I also don't ever remember them & ABC sharing a game even regionally. I know they have an incestuous relationship, but the sharing of games seems very odd. Let's hope this is not a pattern as it will mean one less HD game a week if they keep sharing.
Hopefully this was just an aberation because there wasn't a full slate of games available to them, so there was some duplication.
Basically ABC has first pick of games that are regional, then it goes to ESPN, i was thinking that both games would be on regardless but who knows, actually looking at todays ESPN must have first pick on regional because WF/BC was on ESPN here in NY and the other game was on ABC.