Three big reasons why Americans aren’t upgrading their phones

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  1. Mark Holtz

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    Likely improvements to the smart phone: Higher resolution screen, fingerprint sensor, NFC (for Google pay), and possibly the loss of a replaceable battery and headphone jack.

    Likely improvements to the laptop: Faster processor, replacement of physical drive with SSD, longer battery life.
     
  2. inkahauts

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    There is an argument to be made to upgrade every year if you can get the right deal. Right deal being that you basically pay the same amount over the course of say three or four years weather you had the same phone and bought it and used it for three or four years or you upgrade every year to a new phone. If the cost is the same upgrade. The key is getting the right deal with the right carrier to make that happen. And that’s not easy. I do think most are set up to make that come out right if you upgrade every two years or so.
     
  3. Rich

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    I dunno. I'll probably hang on to the new 10+ as long as I can. Switching phones is an ordeal I can live without. And at the prices they charge for these things I don't see how you could switch every year. But you make good points, maybe that would work.

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  4. lparsons21

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    I've been primarily an iPhone user for many years starting with the 5, then the 7+ and now an Xs Max. Love that Apple ecosystem! But $1100 for a phone is just not going to happen again!

    Since I got the Xs Max, I also got another secondary line just in case. Got a Moto Z3 for $240. It represents about 80-90% of what the flagships are but at a hell of a lot lower price point. Very fast, camera good enough for any picture I'm going to take, nice big screen for my aging eyes and it does all I ever actually do just fine. Yes it isn't quite up to the Xs Mac or latest Galaxy, but $900-$100 vs $240? If I were to switch over to Android the two things I would miss is iMessage and the ability to make and answer calls and messages on all my other Apple gear under the same phone number, that is damned handy. But is it $700+ more handy???

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  5. billsharpe

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    The newest phones are too big and too expensive. I bought an iPhone 8 last year to replace my three-year-old Android phone, which only cost $60 on Amazon at that time. I want a phone that fits in my shirt pocket.

    I am still happy with my five-year-old Windows desktop and seven-year-old laptop computer.
     
  6. scooper

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    COunt me in on the "don't upgrade phones unless necessary" - and the last time I did , it was to get an extra large battery - the old one would still otherwise do what I wanted. I'm also cheap in that I use prepaid cell phone plans and pay for my phone up front.

    My laptop - bought it when they were still loaded with Win8. Currently running Win10 with no issues.
     
  7. Rich

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    My old laptop was a Windows 7 computer. I put Windows 10 on it and I think that's what killed it. Shouldn't say "killed", it still works but it's so slow it's practically useless. But I know someone that knows a lot more than I do about computers and when I'm done with it I'm gonna ask him if he wants it. It's gorgeous laptop, a Lenovo Z710 Idea pad. 17" model. Illuminated keyboard.

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  8. Mark Holtz

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    My personal laptop was purchased in August, 2012, and I'm still using it. It was supposed to be a "gaming" laptop, but the gaming part didn't quite work out. It still works fine, especially for Toastmasters presentations, but I'm not going to replace it. Work now requires that everyone in my division have a laptop for our work and to keep it close by. It's part of the "Backup Contingency Plan" (BCP) with the expectation that we should be able to work remotely in a pinch, including a VPN connection. The work laptop is under a 3 year replacement cycle. I'm am not going to drag around two laptops when I do my occasional travel.
     
  9. Eva

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    I still have a desktop running on 7 and a couple lappys, one running on 8.1 and the other a Mac with Boot Camp with 10 on it. As for a phone, I have an old school flip phone. I actually use the thing to talk! Isn't that amazing? :eek:
     
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  10. Mark Holtz

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    Windows 7 is going to be end-of-life in mid-January, 2020, after which time you won't receive any security updates.
     
  11. billsharpe

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    Perhaps, but MS released a securing update for XP recently. Besides Win 7 end-of-life support is still about eight months away.
     
  12. Mark Holtz

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    Per this article, the patch is only for the WannaCry exploit that affects both Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 servers. All other patches stopped in April, 2014.... that's five years ago. Also, many software manufacturers dropped Windows XP support. Firefox dropped XP support with version 53 in March, 2017, while Chrome dropped XP support in April, 2016.

    And you should be spending the time migrating to a newer system. Per the Microsoft lifecycle sheet, the last date you could have purchased a Windows 7 Professional system was end of October, 2016... almost four year ago. Wanted Windows 7 Home Edition? End of sale was October, 2014.
     
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    Windows XP dies final death as Embedded POSReady 2009 reaches end of life
    "After 17 years, support for the last Windows XP variant comes to an end. Because of changes coming to Windows Update, users have until July to apply final patches."
    "Extended support for Windows Embedded POSReady 2009—the last supported version of Windows based on Windows XP—ended on April 9, 2019, marking the final end of the Windows NT 5.1 product line after 17 years, 7 months, and 16 days. Counting this edition, Windows XP is the longest-lived version of Windows ever—a record that is unlikely to be beaten."
     

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