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Time for channel number reorg?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by wilbur_the_goose, May 19, 2012.

  1. tonyd79

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    Depends on how they do it. When they move one or two, they usually just move them and SLs follow. When they did the 600s reorg, they took months and SLs did not follow.
     
  2. n3ntj

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    While it would make sense to have all sports, news, etc. near each other, each time they do that, I am sure, that really pisses off customers since they have to now remember new channel numbers. I say just leave the channels where they are other than minor tweaking when needed for specific channels.
     
  3. APB101

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    I've been with DirecTV since 1998. In 1999 there was a restructuring because a new order was necessary. Basics (general channels like USA, MTV) were in the 200s and sports (not including ESPN but Speed and Golf) were in the 300s. Basics (those generals) were expanding enough they needed a 200-block; so USA became assigned to channel number 242 and MTV to 331 while premiums (formerly under USSB) were moved from the 900s to 500s.

    I imagine this would be costly and that it would be annoying to viewers. But, it doesn't mean they wouldn't adjust. They might like the change. Currently considering the allocations of not just DirecTV but Dish Network and my area cable companies, I think DirecTV is best. AT&T U-verse is good. Dish is somewhat modeled after DirecTV's (having choice sports channels, especially ESPN, up front with more general programmers). Two other providers from my Detroit area, Comcast and WOW!, are a mess. Comcast, especially, due to having no order. Soon as HD joined the landscape, Comcast placed them wherever.

    If DirecTV ever does realign its allocated channel lineup, I suggest the following Template:

    002–069 Local Stations [DMAs] (070–099 Distant Networks; subchannels, if possible)
    100–499 Basic Cable (100–149 mix: DirecTV info and informercial programming; 150–199 news; 200–299 general fare like WGN America, TBS, TNT, truTV, Spike, TV Land, Comedy Central, USA Network, Syfy, Discovery, and A&E; 300–349 kids, such as Disney, Disney XD, Disney Jr., ABC Family, The Hub, PBS Kids Sprout, Cartoon Network, and Nickelodeon suites; 350–399 teens/young adults, with music-video and other fare such as MTV, VH1, BET, Fuse, CMT, and GAC and their suites; 400–449 females, with the likes of HGTV, DIY Network, Food Network, Cooking Channel, HSN, QVC, Oprah Winfrey Network, Lifetime, Hallmark Channel, E!, Style Network, Oxygen, and We TV; 450–464 basic movies, such as AMC, IFC, Sundance, Documentary Channel, Fox Movie Channel, and Turner Classic Movies; 465–479 HD Extra Pack; 480–499 Encore)
    500–599 Sports: Regional (ordered by zip code: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ZIP_code_prefixes)
    600–699 Sports: National (ESPN suites in the 600s and 610s; also with NFL Network, NBA TV, NHL Network, MLB Network; this would include multi-state programmers, with multiscreens, like Big Ten Network and Pac–12)
    700–899 Sports: Seasonal-subscription (professional sports teams get their own channel)
    900–999 Premium Movies (980–999 Premium Adults)
    1000–1999 Religion (ordered by religion)
    2000–2999 Foreign Language (with some three-digit programmers' foreign alternative +2,000)
    3000–3999 Sonic Tap (audio music)
    4000–4999 GSN Game Lounge (video games)
    5000–5999 DirecTV Reserved (test channels; private companies' programming)
    6000–8999 On Demand (original screen, from channels 000–2999 +6,000)
    9000–9999 Events • Pay Per View
     
  4. damondlt

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    This is not needed though, why do all this when they really only need to move a handfull of channels.

    Think about it
    Locals 2-99
    PPV 100-200
    Networks 200-399
    Spanish Networks( and Jade)400-499
    Premium Movie Channels 500-599
    Sports Networks 600-699
    Seasonal Sports packs 700-799
    Music Channels 800-899

    I think its a fine system as is, if they move maybe 10 channels the list would be perfect.
     
  5. Drew2k

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    You left out the On Demand channels. Currently on-demand channels are the channel number + 1000.
     
  6. JoeTheDragon

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    Sports Networks needs more room then 600-699 even more so if ESPN, NHL,NFL,ETC where to move there. Now NBCSN can move to near ESPN is.
     
  7. PK6301

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    So I am sure once I get to know where things are, they WILL do a reorganization as you requested..give me about 1 month.. (I am a slow learner LOL !!!)[/QUOTE]

    I am beginning to know where all my favorite stations are, so now they can do their reorganization like you want !!!

    It did not even take me a month to learn (Only 2 weeks) ((I guess all that schooling did come in handy)):D:lol:
     
  8. Hoosier205

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    ...and still being overlooked in this thread.
     
  9. Mike Bertelson

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    It's been brought up a couple of times, twice by you, but we don't really know which are locked to a given location and which aren't so it's kinda moot.

    I wonder if we could tell which broadcasters have a channel by carriage agreement by looking at the channel numbers across providers.

    Mike
     
  10. Araxen

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    Rearranging the channels would cost Directv a lot of money. They have to print out new material, more calls into cs, etc.. The channel structure is good enough and doesn't warrant them spending the money.

    Personally I wouldn't mind seeing it but they would have to do it during the Summer when the major fall/winter shows are in reruns/off the air.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Isn't summer when the cable channels show first run? Most first run in fall/winter are major nets and would not be affected.
     
  12. damondlt

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    That's fine they can stay there.
     
  13. Hoosier205

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    The whole discussion is moot for the very reason I mentioned before. It's a non-starter. It is another example of members oversimplifying DirecTV topics. Channels are where there are for very specific and deliberate reasons.
     
  14. studechip

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    That doesn't mean that those reasons will always be applicable.
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    It's just a discussion about where the channels are and where some people want them to be.

    Everyone understands there's not much that can be done about it but there's absolutely no reason not to ponder the possibilities. ;)

    Mike
     
  16. Hoosier205

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    Not according to the first post.
     
  17. damondlt

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    Read your avatar! ;)
    Nothing wrong with this thread, you don't have read it or post in it.
    We are well aware and have been that the channels are where they are for a reason. That doesn't mean people can't ask to update, or talk about updating the line up.

    Some of you guys over here need to stop being so sensitive of other opinions and suggestions.
     
  18. APB101

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    wilbur_the_goose brought up an interesting topic. I didn't mind using my own creativity to suggest a broad layout. (Especially evident with a 400-block of sports.) Why so broad? It may be a template that could last well beyond the 13 years of the current one, which was implemented back in July 1999.

    The time, expense, and inconvenience are more an issue with the possibility of realigning a channel lineup for any cable-television provider, DirecTV not excluded.
     
  19. wilbur_the_goose

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    Thanks for all the posts.

    I've been with D* for 15 years now, and we used to have MAJOR channel number reorgs every couple of years. I guess I got used to that and was hoping that we were due for another.

    I guess the Hughes D* days are now a bygone era!

    Anyway, the CNN and ESPN channels have indeed always been from 200-211.
     
  20. APB101

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    Well, there's a difference between shuffling and clearing a few blocks of channels—like a group of 10 or 20—to that of an entire restructuring.

    It wouldn't bother me if DirecTV went ahead and did that. (For example: the regional sports.) But, for anyone there considering this, it may be not be worth it to them. (Not yet.)

    By the way: you're welcome! :)
     

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