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Time to Re-organize the Channel Line-Up?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Steve, Aug 31, 2007.

Should D* re-Organize the Channel Line-Up?

  1. No. The line-up is fine the way it is.

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  2. Yes. It's time for D* to re-organize the line-up.

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  3. Other. Explained below.

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  1. Directvlover

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    I can never understand why ESPN2 HD comes before ESPN HD in the lineup. Seems like the obvioius way to do it would be the other way around.
     
  2. leww37334

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    I am more bothered by the "default to the HD channel" In many instances I want to record the SD channel, because the program is not in HD and I want to save disk space. If when I select 244 to record will I automatically get the HD channel, even if I don't want it?? I can see problems starting to arise here.

    PS they could fix all this for me by letting me ADD an ESATA drive in addition to my internal drive.
     
  3. Herdfan

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    I give a vote to it being accurate as well. D* has done reshuffles before and when they placed all the news channels together, they left CNN where is was at 202/204 supposedly because CNN paid (or perhaps charged less per sub) for the position.
     
  4. Steve

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    Not to worry. You can still always select the SD to record. Both HD and SD show up in the GUIDE and SEARCH results. I do the same as you, but for a slightly different reason than disk space. My displays can't do a "smart stretch" on 720p or 1080i 4:3, only on 480i/p, so I record the SD for that reason. /s
     
  5. Tom Robertson

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    I guess I'm always used to channels being somewhat grouped and somewhat chaotic as well. That is the point of the guide categories, grouping channels for us. And for surfing, Favorites list are helpful.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  6. MalibuRacing

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    I agree that a lineup order should be updated. I switched from E* to D* several years ago. That was the MOST frustrating issue at first, figuring out the channel line up.

    I'm not sure if it is still the same at E*, but all ESPN/sports channels were together, all premium movie channels were together, all news channels, all superstations, etc.

    Why the heck is ESPNU in the 600's and the rest of ESPN channels in 200's?? Same for Foxnews being 360 and CNN in 200's. :confused:

    I'm sure it would irritate people making a major channel lineup change, and I honestly don't see it happening. I think it would indeed be irratating to most people. Then, you would have to deal with all the complaints of everyone having to change their Season Pass/Record Series lineup.

    Like I said, I'm all for a lineup re-org, but I don't see it happening. :(
     
  7. JeffBowser

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    Now - if the program is not in HD, but on an "HD channel", doesn't it just take up SD space anyway ?? I mean, isn't a 480i program 480i, even if it is being shown on a channel designated for HD ?

     
  8. Alan Gordon

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    Nope! You watch an SD program on an HD channel, it's broadcast in the same resolution as the HD programming on that channel (720p/1080i) and takes up the same amount of space...

    ~Alan
     
  9. Alan Gordon

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    I voted yes... I've been a DirecTV customer through TWO big channel reorganizations... they did a pretty good job of keeping people aware of things... so I say go for it...

    ~Alan
     
  10. Steve

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    No. The actual 4:3 image takes up the same proportional amound of HD space because it's encoded the same as regular HD. The program will be a little smaller in file size that full HD, because the pillars on either side compress down to nothing. /steve

    EDIT: Got a phone-call mid-post, so didn't realize Alan already got this one! :) /s
     
  11. celticpride

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    they should have changed the channel lineup BEFORE the new FALL tv season starts. otherwise it would be a hassle to change your series links,unless you had TIVO which would automaticly find your program no matter what time or channel it was on.
     
  12. mx6bfast

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    I voted Other.

    I chose this because I watch the same ~ 40 channels all the time. Every now and then I'll be flipping through the guide and something will catch my eye, but it wouldn't make that big of an impact on me. We have our favorites setup in our 880.
     
  13. carl6

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    I also voted other. It really does not matter to me. The (relatively few) channels I watch I have learned their channel numbers. If it changes, I'll learn the new numbers.

    I agree the current organization of channels really makes no sense, but as someone noted, that has developed over a period of years (since the USSB acquisition). If they decide to update it now, they will just have to do it again in another ten years.

    Carl
     
  14. JeffBowser

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    Oh, yuck.


     
  15. jutley

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    I know very few channel numbers after being a D* subscriber for over 5 years. I typically use the guide to look for what I want to watch. That being said I would prefer the channedls are grouped in some logical order with room between the groupings for future additions. Just my opinion...
     
  16. n3ntj

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    I say leave them as there are now.
     
  17. Steve

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    Yes, leaving things "as is" is an option, and is most likely D*'s current plan. What concerns me personally is that there will be a a significant number of new channels coming that don't have existing SD counterparts. These will now have to be sprinkled among the current open channel slots.

    What this will probably mean is the best way to make sense of channels in the future may be through GUIDE filters. /steve
     
  18. wilbur_the_goose

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    I'd like to see a blast from the past (my first D* RCA receiver)... Color code the gude...
     
  19. vikingguy

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    I hope they do that is the only thing I miss about E* besides the superstation package is how the channels are laid out logically.
     
  20. Steve

    Steve Well-Known Member

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    With 158 votes in, 70% of respondents are in favor of re-organizing the channel line-up. /steve
     
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