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Time Warner Cable CEO Says It’s Time To Thin The Cable Channel Herd

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by JoeTheDragon, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    No more than any other RSN, the niche being 1 geographical area.

    Although TWC Sportsnet can now be received in the entire Lakers market area, which has about 30 million people....Not sure how many people tune in when a game is on, but BBC America has a hard time breaking 1 million when they air Doctor Who.
  2. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Nope. Sorry. Only really broadcasts 70 games a year. Those eyeballs are there for about 140 hours a year. As niche as an rsn can be. Might be one or two in the same ballpark but most RSNs have more programming and more teams. (The Galaxy does NOT count...)
  3. mkdtv21

    mkdtv21 Legend

    May 27, 2007
    You all think we have a lot of channels here in the US, then you should take a look at the UK like Sky's channel lineup. They literally have 800 channels and I'm not including pay per view or audio only actual linear entertainment channels. I know a lot of them are freeview channels do to taxes but why are providers there OK with having so much more and far more niche then here. It is almost every month that a new channel is launching there and no they are not merging or taking over another channel, it's actually a new channel coming from nowhere. Yes the United states still has more hd channels but that may change in the future.
  4. garn9173

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    Apr 4, 2005
    Until people all together stop watching sports, nothing is going to change. Sports programming is the only programming that is DVR proof and the ratings are proof. The networks know that and so do advertisers.
  5. garn9173

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    Apr 4, 2005
    Bingo. How many times a day can you watch reruns of Law & Order across MULTIPLE channels? :rolleyes:
  6. Cyber36

    Cyber36 Legend

    Mar 20, 2008
    Byron NY
    I believe the NHL is the first domino to set forth the demise of paid professional sports in America. The justification of making all that money playing a game is about to cease. The middle class has to decide soon if I want to eat that day or watch pay television. Don't worry, Obama will see to it......
  7. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    I see absolutely no evidence of that.
  8. garn9173

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    Apr 4, 2005
    Just like your favorite actor or actress, professional atheletes are entertainers with God given talent. Do you feel the same way when you go to a movie theater and pay $7 for a pop? It's the only way movie theaters can make money as every cent from a ticket sale goes to the studios.
  9. fleckrj

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    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    There are two parts to the argument - there are too many channels, and some channels charge too much. Whether the channel charges 20 cents or $5 per month, it still uses bandwidth. Even if all channels were only 20 cents, the number of channels cannot continue to grow.
  10. fleckrj

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    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    The NHL dispute is about whether the players will continue to get 57% of the income generated by the games or wether the player's allotment will be cut to 50% of the income generated by the games. It will be resolved eventually, but regardless of the outcome, it is in no way leading to the demise of paid professional sports in America. It is just millionaires fighting billionaires for an extra 7% of the revenue that is already being taken in on these games..
  11. alnielsen

    alnielsen Godfather

    Dec 31, 2006
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    I guess that depends on if they are like my ex-wife. Yes, they exist.
  12. tardisdude

    tardisdude Cool Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    Time Warner's new strategy might have the opposite effect they wish (garnering more TV Subs). The TV channels I like might not be the ones someone else likes. I don't care if a channel is a low rated channel in their eyes, its important to me.

    TW's new promises of removing channels might just help them erode further their customer base. Party on TW, moving into the future or making your ahem service less marketable.
  13. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    No. Not everywhere. And I wouldn't be surprised if that channel gets better viewership in its primary market than some of the other truly niche channels out there that are viewable for the entire country.
  14. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    I personally would love to see a shift of the major play stations being in two or three packages, all sports being in a couple packages, and then the truly small niche market channels becoming a la cart. That would solve a lot of issues. A niche market channel to me is one that is hardly ever watched by anyone, or has only one specific type of programing. A reality only channel or a game show only channel would be those kinds of channels. Sports to me is in its completely separate own channel type, both RSNs and espn and league channels.
  15. Diana C

    Diana C Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 30, 2007
    New Jersey
    Wasn't this principle exactly the thinking (at least in public) behind Dish Network dropping the AMC suite of channels? We can see how that worked out. :rolleyes:
  16. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    Of course the below is almost 3 years old now, but the reality is a ton of these channels are dirt cheap per sub/month. But cumulatively it must add up, and eat bw and infrastructure cost. Plus there's always the fact that it always causes hard feelings in the sub base to some degree when you dump a channel you've been carrying.

  17. nmetro

    nmetro Godfather

    Jul 11, 2006
    Hence, most of my viewing is towards movies. The idea that most of the so called niche channels, as well as the main ones, run 8 hour blocks of a show offers no variety. It is because of this is why services like Hulu exists. There are a number of programs, good programs, which can only be found via Internet sources.

    What Time-Warner does not mention is that very few media companies own most, if not all of the channels. Take SyFy (SciFi). Before NBC Universal got hold of it, it ran mostly theatrical movies and SciFi and fantasy shows produced in the US and Britain, pre 1990s. Now it is a part time reality channel, with some SciFi, wrestling and a grade C horror/SciFi movie channel. To see how low this channel has come, tonight's first run movie "The 12 Disaster of Christmas". The description for the DirecTV Guide: "Massive earthquakes and other natural disasters threaten to destroy the world during the holidays". Even the previews SyFy was running for this movie were laughable. Though, three things stand out when big media wants to spend money: remake of "Dune", "Taken" (20 part mini series), and "Tin Man" were the great few highlights of the 13 or so years NBC/Universal controlled the channel.

    The there is History and National geographic which both have now turned into reality channels. Animal Planet is heading that way. Of course there is AMC and IFC, no longer movie specific channels. Turner Classic movies reamins a diamond in the rough, as it has stuck to uncut, commercial free movies; amazing that it has not been wrecked like Fox Movie Channel/FXM.

    Yes folks, and providers wonder why people are drifting to HlLu Plus, YouTube and NetFlix.
  18. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    If not pure ala carte, those channels could at least be bundled into likely-looking bundles. Discovery, Science, H2, Smithsonian. DIY, HGTV, Cooking. FMC, TCM, Lifetime Movies.
  19. wmb

    wmb Godfather

    Dec 17, 2008
    ???? The MLS Cup winner for the past 2 years don't count?!? OK, Beckham is now gone. Haven't heard about Landon, yet.

    Anyhow, there are few channels out there that I would say are must haves. Locals, of course. The ESPN package and Fox Soccer is a must have for me, even though I probably am less into sports than many of the guys I work with.

    As for Netflicks, Hulu, etc, and the thread starter, this may be foretelling that Time Warner is looking in other directions. TW can get $50 to $100 for various broadband products over the same lines with the same equipment without having to provide the customer with any content. Seems like bandwidth can be a higher margin product that content - no programming costs.

    The negotiating point for TW is to tell the networks, "Hey, you know that network you want us to pay $0.25 per month per subscriber for, why don't you just see if you can get 1 in 100 of our subscribers to pay you to stream it for that."
  20. dhkinil

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    Dec 17, 2006
    Lots, and then you can throw in Law & Order UK, which uses the same episodes as the original L & O but set in London!!! The "DS Brooks" character is Lenny Briscoe with an English accent. :lol:

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