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Transponder Maps: Domestic ~ Data 7/26/2017

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Gary Toma, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. Apr 27, 2013 #101 of 2122
    P Smith

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  2. Apr 27, 2013 #102 of 2122
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    You can practice to do this yourself by doing a forum search on the "how to" for this process in the future. But anyhow, as a courtesy this time; :)

    "00F4"= Major Channel Number (Channel 244 in this case).

    "FFFF"= Minor Channel Number (N/A in this case).

    "10"= Compression format used (Means MPEG-4 in this instance and is known by other means to be an HD channel).

    "09"= Audio Compression format (Means AC3 or Dolby Digital here).

    "FF"= Indicates if its a data transmission or not (It isn't in this case as this is a TV transmission).

    "1050"= Video Packet ID number (VPID).

    "1052"= Audio Packet ID number (APID).

    "FFFF"= Data Packet ID number (DPID) (Means N/A in this case).

    "000F"= Network ID number (15 in this instance which refers to CONUS beam transponders from 103w).

    "09"= TID number which may take different names, "Transponder Identifier," "Transponder Identity Descriptor," "Table Index," or the less representative sounding "Transponder Frequency Index," etc., whatever the case it all refers to the same thing, as a pointer or index into a transponder frequency table which when combined with the Network ID uniquely identifies the actual transponder used for conveying the signal along with the host satellite (if the TID range does not overlap with another of the same NID that is)

    For instance in this particular example the TID Hex code "09" with an NID of 15 cited earlier means CONUS transponder number 10 from D12 satellite at 103w.

    "14"= Years since 1993 which this string was read (20 in this case, so 1993+20= 2013).

    "04"= Month of reading (4th or April here).

    "1B"= Day of reading (the 27th here).

    "12"= Hour at reading (18th or 6:00 PM local time).

    "0D"= Minutes at reading (13 past the local hour in this case).

    "22"= Seconds at reading (34 past the local minute here).

    "06"= Weekday of reading (the 6th or Saturday. Monday is the 1st).

    "00 00 00 00"= ROM Version numbers 3,2,1, and 0 (Blanked out by system due to privacy).

    "00 00 00 00"= STS ID numbers 0,1,2, and 3 (Blanked out by system for privacy).

    "00"= STS version (Blanked out by system for privacy).

    "0000AEDFF80E" Receiver ID (RID in HEX, you should conceal this).

    "55"= Signal strength level (96 in this instance).

    "00086605EC48" (Access card number in HEX. You should conceal this as well).
     
  3. Apr 28, 2013 #103 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    Sorry for the delay - the Domestic TPN Map data for 4/24/13 has now been uploaded.
     
  4. Apr 29, 2013 #104 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    Based on the 4/24/13 data, these are the LIL channels currently in Test status:




    NETWORK NAME CHANNEL NOTES_0 NOTES_1
    14 *KCHF 11 A3 Albuquerque 11 KCHF IND Independent from KCHFDT-TV, 11, Albuquerque, NM.
    14 *KAZQ 32 A3 Albuquerque 32 KAZQ IND ETV from KAZQDT-TV, 32, Albuquerque, NM.
    14 *KRTN 33 A3 Albuquerque 33 KRTN IND Independent from KRTNDT-TV, 33, Albuquerque, NM.
    14 *WOUB 20 A3 Charleston WV 20 WOUB PBS PBS from WOUBDT-TV, 20, Charleston, WV.
    11 *CW 13 A3 Chico 13 KHSLDT2 CW CW from KHSLDT2-TV, 13, Chico, CA.
    11 *TEST 15 A3 Colorado Springs 15 KKTV MNT MNT from KKTVDT-TV, 15, Colorado Springs, CO.
    11 *KCWV 27 A3 Duluth 27 KCWV IND Independent from KCWVDT-TV, 27, Duluth, MN.
    11 *TEST 57 A3 Fort Smith 57 KWOG IND Independent from KWOGDT-TV, 57, Fort Smith, AR.
    11 *KAFT 13 A3 Fort Smith KAFT 13 PBS PBS from KAFTDT-TV, 13, Fort Smith, AR.
    14 *WGGS 16 A3 Greenville-Spart 16 WGGS IND Independent from WGGSDT-TV, 16, Greenville, SC.
    11 *KIKUDT 20 A3 Honolulu 20-2 KIKUDT2 Ind Ind from KIKUDT2-TV, 20-2, Honolulu, HI.
    11 *KKAI 50 A3 Honolulu 50 KKAI Ind Ind from KKAI-TV, 50, Honolulu, HI.
    11 *KUPU 56 A3 Honolulu 56 KUPU Ind Ind from KUPU-TV, 56, Honolulu, HI.
    14 *KPXB 49 A3 Houston 49 KPXB ION ION from KPXBDT-TV, 49, Houston, TX.
    14 *WKNX 7 A3 Knoxville 07 WKNX IND Independent from WKNXDT-TV, 07, Knoxville, TN.
    11 *WLBT 7 A3 Lafayette, LA 07 WLBT NBC NBC from WLBTDT-TV, 07, Lafayette, LA.
    11 *KLPB 24 A3 Lafayette, LA 24 KLPB PBS PBS from KLPBDT-TV, 24, Lafayette, LA.
    11 *KLWB 50 A3 Lafayette, LA 50 KLWB IND Independent from KLWBDT-TV, 50, Lafayette, LA.
    11 *KNDX 26 A3 Minot 26 KNDX FOX FOX from KNDXDT-TV, 26, Minot, ND.
    11 *KION 47 A3 Monterey 47 KIONDT CW CW from KIONDT-TV, 47, Monterey, CA.
    14 *KGLA 42 A3 New Orleans 42 KGLA TMO Telemundo from KGLADT-TV, 42, New Orleans, LA
    14 *WPXL 49 A3 New Orleans 49 WPXL ION ION from WPXLDT-TV, 49, New Orleans, LA
    11 *WNJN 50 A3 New York 50 WNJN PBS PBS from WNJNDT-TV, 50, New York, NY.
    14 *TEST 68 A3 Orlando 68-2 WBCC-2 PBS PBS from WBCCDT2-TV, 68-2, Orlando, FL.
    11 *KPSE 50 A3 Palm Springs 50 KPSE MNT MNT from KPSE-TV, 50, Palm Springs, CA.
    14 *KMYU 12 A3 Salt Lake City 12 KMYU MNT MNT from KMYUDT-TV, 12, Salt Lake City, UT.
    14 *KYVV 10 A3 San Antonio 10 KYVV MFX MFX from KYVVDT-TV, 10, San Antonio, TX.
    14 *XDTV 49 A3 San Diego 49 XDTV MNT MNT from XDTVDT-TV, 49, San Diego, CA.
    14 *WTLF 24 A3 Tallahassee 24 WTLF CW CW from WTLFDT-TV, 24, Tallahassee, FL.
    14 *KLPN 58 A3 Tyler 58 KLPN MNT MNT from KLPNDT-TV, 58, Tyler, TX
    11 *FOX/MN 19 Butte-Bozeman 19 KWYB FOX/MNT FOX/MNT from KWYBDT2-TV, 19, Butte, MT.
    3 *WKNX 7 Knoxville WKNX 07 IND Independent from WKNX-TV, 07, Knoxville, TN.
    3 *CW 14 Laredo (TX) CW 14 CW from Corpus Christi, TX.
    3 *WPSD2 6 Paducah WPSD2 6 NBC NBC from WPSD2-TV, 6, Paducah, KY.
    14 *WSTE 167 Teleisla (Puerto Rico) Teleisla
    3 *KTRE 9 Tyler, TX KTRE 09 ABC ABC from KTRE-TV, 09, Tyler, TX.


     
  5. May 7, 2013 #105 of 2122
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    I just moved back to the Albany, NY DMA. When I had my locals switched this morning, I was surprised to find WCWN, ch. 45 in my guide, since I cannot receive the SD locals on 119 (tree blockage, 119 is at 23 deg. elevation). It is in the the May 1 transponder map, and I assume that it is new as of that date, since no comments were made between 4/10 and now. It wasn't there on 4/10. That means all Albany DMA channels are available on Mpeg4 satellites, which eliminates reception problems for a lot of people here in the Adirondacks.
     
  6. May 8, 2013 #106 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    To facilitate your homework, attached are the TPN Maps for 4/10, 4/17, 4/24 and 5/1.

    Is this perhaps an MPEG4 channel? Please remember that the data for an MPEG4 record does not tell us the content resolution of the payload...

    It will be interesting to see what you discover!

    EDIT: 5/15 - removed the four old TPN Maps that were used for research
     
  7. May 8, 2013 #107 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    Doctor J Comments for the 5/8/13 Data:

    Absolutely NO changes in LIL data for today.
     
  8. May 8, 2013 #108 of 2122
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    According to a poster titled "Weather88," though he doesn't list his location http://www.dbstalk.com/topic/196417-directv-locals-city-by-city-whats-available-v3/?p=3134114 nevertheless reports on the city-by-city availability thread, that its an HD Channel.

    And since WCWN still has an MPEG-2 SD version on 119, has there ever been a case where DIRECTV would put up an MPEG-4 SD version of the same channel?
     
  9. May 8, 2013 #109 of 2122
    tomspeer46

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    I took a look at the transponder maps, and the mpeg4 signal for WCWN, first appears in the May 1 data. It is on VPID 1060 on the same transponder as the other Albany mpeg4 spot beam locals (except for the Vermont virtuals, which only a very few areas get). With NATIVE ON, my tv reports a 1080i signal, as do the lights on my HR24. The programming ithat is on is in 16:9 HD, so this is not just an SD mpeg4 signal.

    I have heard several instances when DirecTV could not complete an install in this area, because there was no clear line of sight to 119 for SD only customers, or the SD only channels for people with HD receivers. 23 degrees elevation in a mountainous, forested region is a problem. In my case, I told the installer that I didn't care about SD only channels, and he fudged the install with a SL3S LNB, then reconnected the SL5S afterward. Now I have no missing channels (and I retired the SL5).

    I count nine DMA's with SD locals on 119, where the elevation is below 30 degrees. DirecTV already has created MPEG4 only markets when they gave up the satellite at 77 deg W, The nine low angle SD markets would seem to be the next logical choice, but it may be just a slow migration. FWIW, the nine DMA'a are: Albany NY. Buffalo NY, Rochester NY, Hartford CT, Lansing MI, Flint MI, Portland ME, Providence RI, and Springfield MA.

    I was going to try moving the dish to a different location to try to get 119, but I will wait and watch the signal strength for 99 and 103 as the leaves come out fully.
     
  10. May 8, 2013 #110 of 2122
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    72.5 deg. W. actually ... :)
     
  11. May 8, 2013 #111 of 2122
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    I can confirm that WCWN is indeed an HD feed, not just MPEG-4 SD. The guide lists the shows in HD, and my TV shows it as an HD resolution.
     
  12. May 10, 2013 #112 of 2122
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    Thanks, I knew I probably had that wrong, I just couldn't remember. I had an extra dish for it in Syracuse.
     
  13. May 10, 2013 #113 of 2122
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    You might as well throw Wilkes-Barre, PA in there too. With the terrain and the wooded areas around here, getting LOS for 119 is very hard unless you have a clear view of the horizon or your roof is above the trees.
     
  14. May 15, 2013 #114 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    Doctor J Comments for the 5/15/2013 Data:

    NETWORK NAME CHANNEL LIL_MKT NOTES0 NOTES1
    HD LIL Channel Removed
    10 ABC-NY 60 181 A3 St. Joseph 60 ABC ABC from WABCDT-TV, 60, New York, NY

    HD LIL Channel New in TEST (1 channel, 2 spot beams)
    14 *KCDO 3 54 A3 Denver 03 KCDO IND (D12) Independent from KCDODT-TV, 03, Denver, CO
    11 *KCDO 3 54 A3 Denver 03 KCDO IND (D11) Independent from KCDODT-TV, 03, Denver, CO

    HD LIL Channel New in TEST
    14 *KRCA 62 113 A3 Los Angeles 62 KRCA IND Independent from KRCADT-TV, 62, Los Angeles, CA
     
  15. May 15, 2013 #115 of 2122
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    Well ....not a channel I watch, but for the Spanish speaking good to see. Though right now KRCA 62-1 HD (720p) is only up-converted SD with stretch-o-vision. Yuck ... :down:

    Anyhow that makes for 17 HD local channels now carried by DIRECTV in the LA DMA. The Big 4 on CONUS beam and 13 others on spots.
     
  16. May 22, 2013 #116 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    Doctor J Comments for the 5/22/13 Data:


    NETWORK NAME CHANNEL LIL_MARKET NOTES0 NOTES1

    HD LIL Channel Removed
    0 ION 57 140 Orlando WOPX ION (Virtual) ION from WOPX-TV, 57, Malabar, FL
    11 WSBN 47 190 A3 Tri-Cities 47 WSBN PBS For PBS programming tune to Ch. 65

    New HD LIL Channel in TEST
    14 *CW 7 17 A3 Beaumont 07 KFDMDT2 CW CW from KFDMDT2-TV, 07, Beaumont, TX

    New SD LIL Channel in TEST
    0 *MNT 7 48 Columbus WSYXDT2 07 MNT MNT from WSYXDT2-TV, 7, Columbus, OH
    0 *MNT 22 84 Harrisburg, PA WHPDT2 22 MNT MNT from WHPDT2-TV, 22, Harrisburg, PA
    3 *CW 14 161 Rochester, NY WHAMDT2 14 CW CW from WHAMDT2-TV, 14, Rochester, NY

    New HD LIL Channel ACTIVE
    14 KCDO 3 54 A3 Denver 03 KCDO IND (D12) Independent from KCDODT-TV, 03, Denver, CO
    11 KCDO 3 54 A3 Denver 03 KCDO IND (D11) Independent from KCDODT-TV, 03, Denver, CO
    14 KRCA 62 113 A3 Los Angeles 62 KRCA IND Independent from KRCADT-TV, 62, Los Angeles, CA
    14 KGLA 42 133 A3 New Orleans 42 KGLA TMO Telemundo from KGLADT-TV, 42, New Orleans, LA
     
  17. May 29, 2013 #117 of 2122
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    Doctor J Comments for the 5/29/13 Data:


    NETWORK NAME CHANNEL LIL_MKT NOTES0 NOTES1

    SD LIL Channel Removed/Replaced
    0 CW 14 161 Rochester, NY CW 14 (Virtual) REMOVED
    3 CW 14 161 Rochester, NY WHAMDT2 14 CW CW from WHAMDT2-TV, 14, Rochester, NY

    New HD LIL Channel ACTIVE
    14 CW 7 17 A3 Beaumont 07 KFDMDT2 CW CW from KFDMDT2-TV, 07, Beaumont, TX


    New SD LIL Channel ACTIVE
    0 MNT 7 48 Columbus WSYXDT2 07 MNT MNT from WSYXDT2-TV, 7, Columbus, OH
    0 MNT 22 84 Harrisburg, PA WHPDT2 22 MNT MNT from WHPDT2-TV, 22, Harrisburg, PA
    0 CW 14 94 Jackson (MS) CW 14 (Virtual) CW from WDCW-TV, 14, Washington, DC
     
  18. Jun 3, 2013 #118 of 2122
    Gary Toma

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    An interesting observation, based upon the 5/29/13 TPN data:

    We now have:

    1,821 MPEG4 LIL channels
    1,317 MPEG2 LIL channels

    That is quite an evolution in a few very short years. And we can expect that MPEG2 to MPEG4 transition to continue at an ever accelerating rate.
     
  19. Jun 5, 2013 #119 of 2122
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    I also noted that when I examined all 10 of the LIL markets on 119, where the satellite is below 30 degrees above the horizon, including Wilkes-Barre, (thank you KyL416), all of the local stations on 119 in those markets are on mpeg4 satellites at a higher elevation. It works for me!
     
  20. Jun 6, 2013 #120 of 2122
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    So does DIRECTV now waive the installation requirement for SD channel reception in those markets should 119 likely be blocked and will install a SL-3(S)?
     

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