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Transponder Maps: Domestic, LatinAm and SkyMex New Data 12/19/2012

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Gary Toma, Jul 5, 2012.

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  1. Gary Toma

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    Of Note:

    The 'Channel Count' tab of the TPN Map (Domestic) has been updated to reflect the 10/17 counts. Sixto's analysis and tracking is confirmed.

    gct
     
  2. Sixto

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    Thanks gct.

    For the SHEF stuff, I was hoping you could pull all the data at once, can't imagine that I'd do one channel at a time, back to trying to fix the tool for the sat stream.
     
  3. P Smith

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    Other technical note: by removing smart card you can get info about channels what are not subscribed and some test channels (no video/audio - just the hex data !). No LiLs outside of you spotbeams.
     
  4. Gary Toma

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    The beauty here is that you can validate one channel/any channel whenever you wish. You don't need to wait for the TPN Map Weekly Report. If you have questions on redirection - the question is resolved here.

    Sample your way through the channels moving from D10 to D12 and get yourself comfortable that we are dealing with accurate data. It is a superb double check.
     
  5. Sixto

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    Oh yeah, I trust your data, you guys have expert tooling. It's just that with D10 having massive changes, just wanted to be 100% sure before making any major assumptions that D10 is being put into a secondary role. My daily data always matched your weekly data until this darn redirection stuff started.
     
  6. P Smith

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    Oh, you are lucky with SHEF implementation, before that only USB-Serial dongle was the path to obtain the data.
     
  7. Sixto

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    Yep, just tried it and it certainly works.
     
  8. Gary Toma

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    One last bit of sanity, for folks (HoTat2) trying to make sense of all of this...

    My 'Channel Counts' are done early in the post-processing sequence. So (just as an example) my count of D10 CONUS channels will include both the final 'CONUS' tab records and also the CONUS records that ultimately end up on the 'Hybrids' tab. A 'push channel' from D10 is a CONUS channel, but will show up within the 'Hybrid' tab.

    We have tried to limit the 'CONUS' tab to records which are reasonably received by a normal subscriber. Example: a channel 9xxx CONUS channel that could only be received by a special 'testing access card' is shown as a Hybrid record, not a CONUS record.

    Hope this makes sense..............

    gct
     
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    Here's a network/transponder list pulled from one of my receivers using the http json interface, I'm in Chicago. It does take a while to pull them one by one. It started around 23:00 CDT Oct 20
     
  10. P Smith

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    Well, if you could tell what is STATION_ID means ?

    Any chance to compare with gct's table and present a difference only ?
     
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    I have no idea on that one, it was in the json return data so I thought I would include it in case someone can figure it out. Let me think about diffs
     
  12. HoTat2

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    Actually its somewhat confusing P. Smith;

    The JSON responses over IP outlined in the SHEF document MD-0359 (latest edition I have) return data that is different in a number of respects from the hex string returns from the MD-0058 STB functionality document gct's data is based upon.
     
  13. P Smith

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    Perhaps we should stick with one format: MD-0058.
    Or it would be a burden on a poster to convert in compatible format. Else the data will be not consumable for us.
     
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    which data are you talking about? the VPID/APIDs? I just gave the decimal version whereas it looks like the spreadsheet carries hex values
     
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    I just realized what I can't find out is which satellite/transponder a given NET/TID is on...
     
  16. HoTat2

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    Oh! ... duh. :imwith:

    So the SHEF JSON returns do give the same data format as the MD-0058. Good to see and makes a lot more sense. Sorry I didn't notice those were simply the decimal equivalents of the Hex data you converted the various values to.

    You know gct use to list the various Network TID ranges used by the specific host satellite(s) of a channel on the decoder map of the his spreadsheet, but stop publishing them a good while ago.
     
  17. Gary Toma

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    For the CONUS (wide beam) channels, the rules are easy:

    For D10 and D11, the TID less 123 = TPN
    For D12 and D14, the TID plus 1 = TPN
    For All Ku sats, the TID plus 1 = TPN

    Armed with that wisdom, go to the 'Network Decoder' tab of the TPN Map Excel. Knowing the NET (column 2) locate your TPN at the right of that row.

    For the Ka *LIL* channels, the rules are ugly.

    And yes, I am only guessing about D14.....

    :)
     
  18. HoTat2

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    Ugly and undoubtedly complex as the LiL rules may be gct;

    Is it too much trouble to detail them anyway, for the purpose of the techno-geeks here? :D
     
  19. P Smith

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    I recall camera3 has it.
     
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    Looks to me like no one takes care of that site. I think they should import the relevant information to this site and shut that site down. I see tons of spam, and old posts from years ago. Doesn't look very active or current.
     
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