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"Tron" on HDNet - March 3 @ 9pm ET

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by Chris Blount, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. Lincoln6Echo

    Lincoln6Echo Godfather

    Jul 11, 2007
    Well quoting myself here, I watched it back on my DVR with my surround sound cranked up and I'll say that I have to amend my initial reaction. The sound was actually quite good. The LFE was indeed powerful when it needed to be. I'm not all that familiar with the old DVD mix, as I don't own it, so I can't compare it to that, but it wasn't bad by any means.
  2. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

    Jun 22, 2001
    You are right. It's not that bad, but when you have heard the DVD mix, its night and day.
  3. trdrjeff

    trdrjeff Icon

    Dec 3, 2007
    I was pretty sure I wasn't going to be real interested in watching it. I saw it in the theater as a kid and though it was kinda cool then, I never once had the desire to watch it again.
  4. SamC

    SamC Hall Of Fame

    Jan 20, 2003
    In a word, no. It is one of the worst movies of all time, and almost caused the colapse of the Walt Disney Company.

    At the time Disney was not the media conglomerate it is today (ABC, ESPN, Touchstone, etc). It was just the stuff with "Disney" on it. The theme parks, sappy live-action "family" movies, and the evergreen vault of Walt's masterpiece cartoons, which were re-released every few years to a whole new crop of kids.

    Disney had lost its way. The parks were foundering, suffering from "been there-done that". The movie theatre business was changing such that expecting kids to actually go to see Snow White and such was under great presure from VCRs, and the sappy live action films were getting worse and worse.

    Then came Tron. Esentually it was just a way to show off CG, version 1.0. Plot free, most critics said it looked like a game of glow in the dark hockey, without any scoring.

    Most people thought this was going to be the end. The parks (then just consisting of what is known now as the "Magic Kingdom" sections) were going to be sold to theme park companies, the movie business and the evergreen vault to a larger mainline studio.

    The Disney family put its foot (and its shares) down and fired everybody in the building and the rest is history.

    Today, Disney is trying to do a revisionist history on Tron, as a predicate for its coming remake. Its no "masterpiece". It is hardly a movie.
  5. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    What? Man, if you don't like the movie, that's fine, but it's hardly one of the worst movies of all time. It was even a financial success, making $33 million with a $17 million budget. The reviews were mixed at the time, with most of the complaints being that the electronic score and visual effects were bombastic, which through the lens of 30 years seems quaint.

    What's more, modern reviews of the movie likewise view the effects and the music themselves as quaint; the simple fact is that TRON was a groundbreaking use of computer-driven special effects and electronic music in a mainstream film.

    If you want to point at near-disasters that nearly tanked Disney in the late 70s/early 80s, point at The Black Hole, Witch Mountain and Freaky Friday.
  6. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    Tron is a very polarizing movie; lots of folks didn't "get it" and those people generally hated it. The people that "got it" usually LOVED it.

    Is the story simplistic? You bet. This isn't The Godfather. But that's not what this movie was about. It was about making a film that spoke to a generation of kids (and adults) who were fascinated by computers and video games and just starting to really be impacted by them on a personal level (the movie was written in the late 70s and started production in 1980). It was the first movie to really try to visually represent some of the things that were going on inside a computer (and in this area was HUGELY influential; nearly all movies that deal with computers reference it in some way) while retaining some basis in science. And, of course, pushing the envelope of filmmaking in several ways:

    - First film to use computer-rendered graphics in any significant way (nearly 20 min of the film was CG)

    - First film to integrate CG and live action.

    - First major use of "backlit animation".

    - First significant use of computer-generated music in a movie soundtrack/score.

    Folks that aren't interested in computers beyond making sure the ATM spits out the right number of bills probably won't get much out of Tron, but computer geeks, gamers, and techies will always have fond memories of it, and the movie's influence on filmmakers is huge and still growing.
  7. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    And for those critical of the CG in the movie, keep in mind WHEN it was made, and the systems it was made on:

    DEC PDP-10s and clones were the computers used to render Tron's CG scenes. 4 different companies had to split the work load, and the final photo-realistic renders took over a year to render. To compare, an iPhone 3Gs could probably render these scenes in a few hours.
  8. djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Long-time Disney shareholder here.

    Tron was not Disney's problem. Disney didn't almost "go under". If you're looking at why there might have been less profits in 1982 at Disney, you only need to look at a calendar.

    In October of that year, Disney opened EPCOT at the Walt Disney World resort - which, to that point, cost them $800M to build and they'd yet to see a penny from it.

    As pointed out earlier, Tron made a small profit.

    Disney wasn't going to be "sold to theme park companies". The Bass brothers (Texas financiers) tried to buy Disney and Disney had to do some financial maneuvering to avoid that fate (the Bass brothers were known for buying a company and splitting it up, selling the pieces for more than the 'whole' had cost).

    This was a wake-up call to the shareholders and family members that *eventually* resulted in the hiring of Michael Eisner who engineered the "Disney renaissance" until he got too big for his britches.
  9. Charise

    Charise AllStar/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Jan 25, 2004
    It was always one of my favorites! After seeing the previews of Tron Legacy at an Imax 3D on Saturday, I'm really looking forward to that! :D

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