Trying YouTube TV

Discussion in 'Internet Streaming Services' started by Rich, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. 1948GG

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    One if the major reasons I selected yttv was the inclusion of pbs in the local dma stations lineup; however, in a few dma's including mine, there are multiple pbs stations, and the programming from the national feed is split between them. The older station does put the programming that runs on the second pbs affiliate on one of it's subchannels ('pbs world' along with 'pbs kids' which of course is carried) so if yttv would carry either the main channel of the second station or the additional subchannel from the first, then folks in that dma would get all the pbs programs.

    So as yttv expands the pbs cities, it would be nice if they reviewed the early additions and bring things up to snuff. I'm in the seattle dma, but as I've lived all over the country over the last 50+ years, there are others that have the same situation.
     
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    First major crash of the yttv system (at least observed) today, around 1pm pacific time for around to 30 minutes +. All live and dvr programs were coming up 'no internet connection' although on demand programs were playing. I had some programs being dvr'd during the fade out, and on going back to them they were hosed, big gaps and such. So apparently the crash affected most of the subsystems.
     
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    Woke up today with yet more guide failures on yttv. Many of them today are on local channels that have program times that have been there literally for years and years (local news). I really haven't had any time to try and track down who they are contracted with since I posted a message about guide problems several days ago. I'll try again today after these recent failures.
     
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    Hey Rich I know we like some of the same Netflix shows and I don't know if you have watched "Locke and Key" yet, but it is pretty good. I am sure you watched "Messiah", that was epic! Now I am going to take a look at Altered Carbon season 2. I loved the first season and am looking forward to this next one. BTW if you have a paid YouTube subscription I highly recommend Cobra Kia. It starts out a little rough but becomes very addictive and just takes me right back to the 1980s.
     
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    1948GG

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    Recent reports from 'Cord Cutters' list several features being added to yttv, while major programming errors continue to linger on the platform for several months. This is typical of Bamtechs (yttv's outsourced programming team) way of dealing with deep errors. Ignore it.

    Most aggrivating: lack of audio sync when starting playback of a dvr program. Not there all the time but 90+% of the time it is, requiring one to jump back to re-sync things up.
     
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    1948GG

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    Latest Bamtech messup: when starting a live dvr program that is ongoing, the system no longer gives you the option to start from the beginning, join live, or join where you previously left off. Unacceptable.
     
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    Strange.

    I still get this on AppleTV and my Roku TVs.

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    You need to tell us what platform you are running YTTV on for this to be meaningful since YTTV is not 100% consistent across platforms.
     
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    Agreed with mjwagner. I'm on an up-to-date ATV4K box, and I can't get any of these issues to replicate. I'm not saying he's not seeing them, just tough not knowing what's under the hood.
     
  10. 1948GG

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    This evening the second major system foul up, on both roku and android, channels unavailable both live and home, library appears to work; I was watching a dvr movie and when I exited found the system wa basically hosed. Went to a channel I knew was supposedly being recorded, and although the channel was able to play live, no recording was there.

    BAMTECH.

    Fyi, when starting or restarting a dvr'd program, the 'start from beginning', 'start from where last left off' (or whatever the actual text is) are missing still. The movie I was watching was able to restart from where I left off, however.

    An oh, the sync between video and audio remains out of wack, just as it has for the last months.
     
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  11. RichardL

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    I usually have no issues with YTTV on an LG OLED W7 device. Tonight there was a glitch matching the above at around 7pm, pacific. When I turned it on, the last channel I had been streaming was playing, but the guide only offered a generic list of networks, no actual listings etc. No new show could be selected. Also the library showed as empty.

    I watched the channel that was playing for around 30 minutes, then hit back to get to the Live guide and everything was back to normal
     
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    Yeah, there was a burp last night. After watching a recording I exited and it showed nothing in my library. Exited the app and restarted and all was good.

    His other issues I’ve not yet seen on Xbox One, AppleTV, Roku Premier or FireTV Cube, lip sync issues now and then Roku though.
     
  13. 1948GG

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    Another major issue seems to have reared its head with yttv, that of the disappearance of programs far in advance of the supposed 9 month cut off date.

    Several movies which were recorded off TCM, and were at least partially viewed (so they were 'in the system' at one point) have gone missing. Interestingly, when trying to search for them again, nowhere in the system they could be found. Some of them could be retrieved, or at least their listing, by exiting the app and re-starting, but many are not playable although the listing finally was retrievable.

    This 'effect' has been noted both on movies dvr'd on many channels as well as series (tv) which are shown on several channels. Doesn't as appear to have any rhyme or reason as to the dissapearences, looks to be totally random.
     
  14. 1948GG

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    Cord Cutters reported a few days ago that they had noticed an improvement in picture quality with yttv. With a large amount of bandwidth, a 4k roku paired with a 4k flat screen, I hadn't seen any change until today, on several sources I know are 1080i (nbc/cbs and others). On those 720p (abc/fox/espn etc) it took a bit longer cranking up the eyesight (roku output is upscaled to 4k) to note that it is improved, although not as obvious as the 1080 sources.

    Wish there were some live sports channels as they tend to provide the most 'pop's, but everything is shut down at this point. But it has improved.

    Exactly what they've done, new encoders and/or increased bit rate, is a question that hasn't been answered. Of the stored program providers (netflix/prime ect) prime has been the leader and the highest bit rate, both for hd and u-HD. I haven't found any article specifying whose encoders yttv has used up until now, so if they changed anything out or installed new firmware in them is a total unknown.
     
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    DVR playback problems are ramping up in the last few days, with a slew of audio drop-outs and video mashups. A TCM movie I had recorded this last week was so bad I had to drop to the VOD version, which played perfectly, so it wasn't the transmission but the DVR system was wacked. Since it is still marked as ADD it should then-record the next time it's shown (many movies have multiple recordings I've noted) so if the system was having problems when that showing (just a day back) I'll see if it was the system or the source, although one would think if the vod played fine it isn't the source.
     
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    Lip-sync on dvr'd programs is getting worse; now maybe I'm sensitive to it, having dealt with digital video since 1987, but previous to the last x months, where the skew was instantly obvious because it was so far out of wack, now a lot of the time the it's well under 1second and takes more than one reverse 'bump' to get things in sync. Now it's possible with a lot of live news feeds coming off Skype or other internet apps that may be feeding into the problem, but so far to my eyes not really; in fact, this current use of all these ways to news gathering may result in the near death of satellite backhauls in the future.
     
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    Their must be some environmental factors at play here. I run YTTV on lots of different devices (FireTVs of various types, Nvidia Shields, and ATV 4ks...we don't do Roku) with several different combinations of TV's, AVR's, sound bars, etc. and I have so far never experienced any lip-sync issues...and I am extremely sensitive to this type of issue. So either I'm just lucky or it is some specific combination of things that causes this problem to manifest itself.
     
  18. lparsons21

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    I’ve seen some lip-sync issues on my FireTV Cube now and then, never on my ATVs, XboxOne or Roku Premier. In fact I’ve not seen most of 1948GG’s issues at all.
     
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    Interesting, the cube is one of the types of FireTV devices we do not use.
     
  20. lparsons21

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    I have the 1st gen Cube. In my efforts to find a one box for all I had considered it and add the Amazon Recast to be the OTA DVR. But my Cube is sluggish, which I could tolerate, but also the video is darker compared to the ATV4K, and lacks ‘pop’. So it isn’t going to be ‘the box’ going forward.

    The ATV just performs better than any other streaming box I’ve experienced. Speedy in operation, a simple UI, fairly good integration of various streaming sources with the AppleTV+ app, great video and audio. Just makes it an excellent box. From reading lots of posts all over the place, for the most part all apps for it are the best versions of them. The biggest downside to the ATV is the funky little remote! I just hate that remote. I use either my Harmony Elite or iPhone instead of that remote.
     

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