Turner channels removed from Dish

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  1. Chihuahua

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    Of course the slogan of the old Satellite News Channel (1982-83), a joint venture of ABC and Group W, was "Give us 18 minutes, we'll give you the world." And that network aired live newscasts, 24/7. If only we had that type of news network today.
     
  2. acostapimps

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    I'll say this on CNN I did see actual news during primetime today
    Then I flipped to Fox News and all I saw was Bill O'reilly kept arguing about god knows what
    Then I tuned to MSNBC and nothing but sarcastic news about what Republicans did the day before

    You be the judge, but as soon as someone from either party said something kind of drastic, or gave some form of opinion
    then that's where CNN's Sensationalism rear it's ugly head as Breaking News.
     
  3. AntAltMike

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    Like a lot of people, I have never understood why so much of the "news audience" chooses to watch shows that affirm that the person or persons that they just knew were SOBs are, in fact, SOBs. But then, I do realize why such viewers are a more valuable audience than I am. It is because once I "have" the day's news (pre-internet era, anyway), I change the channel. Back half a dozen or more years ago, when CNN was still trying to deny that Fox News was blowing its doors off, they pointed out that when they ran their early evening, two hour block of news, with stories presented live but repeated each half hour, while they only got about 600,000 viewers at time, they were getting over a million and a half "unique viewers" in that interval, whereas the Fox News audience hung in for hour after hour. Surely, nearly everyone who watched Hannity and Liberal to be Determined (that was actually the name of that show when it was in development) had already watched O'Reilly prior to that, so an advertiser that was more interested in getting his message to as many viewers as possible, rather than repeatedly drilling it into the heads of the same few, might discount the value of the larger Fox audience due to its lack of uniqueness, but eventually, the Fox News ratings swamped CNN by so much that CNN was no longer even seen as Fox News's opponent in the Nielsen evening news "match race".
     
  4. Orion9

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    I remember someone being interviewed (on local news perhaps) and he said something that was blatantly incorrect and as the interviewer pressed for where he got that information he said it was "From Fox News, which is the only news channel I can stand to watch."

    "news I can stand" is an interesting phenomenon. Sometimes I think they should bring back the fairness doctrine so people are exposed to news they can't stand, at least some of the time.
     
  5. satcrazy

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    Great...
    Now that AJ news has been on for awhile,what is everyone's take on it?

    I told myself I wouldn't be watching it, but, is it a better venue than most? [ I do not watch much news unless something dramatic occurs]

    Programs like Nancy grace make me cringe. Who wants to hear opinionated shouting?
     
  6. James Long

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    Check the ratings. Opinionated shouting is usually near the top. Ill informed opinionated shouting is very popular. :)
     
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  8. Stewart Vernon

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    When I'm in the mood to be entertained, the shouting people shows can be fun...

    But, generally, when I want to see news... I'm wanting to see things that I don't already know! Because that is the very definition of "news" isn't it? That it be "new"... I don't need to watch a show that tells me stuff I already know OR affirms my opinion so that I feel good about myself for being "right" about something.

    Whenever I tune to the news it is usually because I'm interested in seeing what is new in the world OR wanting the latest info about a current event that I know is happening.

    This basically means I'm often disappointed in all the news channels at one time or another.
     
  9. mwdxer

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    We have a lot more choices for news and news programming today. CNN was it in the 80s, but we have so many different choices. Add in streaming and the list is long.
     
  10. mwdxer

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    I have read that Charlie may permanently drop Turner channels, unless Turner comes to the table with a resonable amount. The ratings are down on most of their channels.
     
  11. satcrazy

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    Great...
    I must be getting old.

    I live in the inner city where shouting, and noise of various natures are the norm. [ yes, fireworks and gunfire included] I have never embraced any of it.

    I refuse to tune into programs that feature shouting as their venue. Nancy grace isn't the only one. There are some morning programs [ like springer] that feel like an assault to the senses. People must lead very dull, sad lives to find this garbage entertaining. [ no offense, Stewart]

    I wonder what age group this appeals to?

    Oh, at the risk of sounding like I live under a rock, what is Adult Swim? [ what channel?]
     
  12. KyL416

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    It's Cartoon Network's overnight block, for ratings purposes they consider it a seperate channel because of the different audiences. Nickelodeon and Nick at Nite does the same thing. (Basically the daily average for kids would be lower if they include the ratings during Adult Swim, and the daily average for adults would be lower if they include the ratings during kids programming)
     
  13. nmetro

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    Turner may be putting themselves out of business. By pulling the channels, from DISH, they made their position worse. With the exception of TCM, advertisers are not going to be happy that their ads are not being seen in 14 million homes. If this continues, and involves TNT and TBS, advertisers may go somewhere else. No advertiser; no channels. Too bad, TCM was a very good channel for classic, uncut, uninterrupted movies. As I like classic movies, I personally would pay $5 - $10 a month ala carte for this channel. The rest, CNN/HN, I have many sources, Tru, Why bother? TBS, I have Comedy central, TNT I have A&E, Cartoon Network/Bommerang, classic cartoons are available from multiple sources and Disney/Nickelodeon. So, out of all of this, TCM is the best of the Turner lot and truly unique. MGM HD has been a very poor substitute, as has FXM. Even on TCMs worse days, it is better than these two channels.

    Too bad TCm does not let people pay for streaming; one can only get it if they subscribe to a cable or satellite service according to the "Watch TCM" web site. They also cut off DISH customers from that web stream,as well, by the way.

    Oh yeah, 29 days and DISH/Turner are still acting like spoiled rich brats and spiting their customers in the process.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    None taken... I usually don't... but sometimes they can be entertaining in the same way that wrestling or other fake confrontation programs are.

    I prefer actual news, when I have the option, though... which can include reasoned conversation and disagreement as long as all parties are informed and respect each other's time and participation.
     
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  15. acostapimps

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    Imagine if CNN did a segment against Dish for not caring for its customers or did some form of short documentary about how bad it's Dish.

    I would say that's desperation
    but I don't want to give them ideas.

    While Fox News would thank Dish for removing CNN.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
     
  16. inkahauts

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    But did they? It sounds more like dish said see ya since you won't do what we want. So it's really both of them not one or the other.
     
  17. mwdxer

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    Yes, I do wish we could pay directly for streaming. HBO and CBS will be doing this. Maybe in time, if the consumer wants a channel, it will be available for streaming, but something tells me,some will take a long time.
     
  18. Wilf

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    It's getting there. Public TV is mostly there, local CBS stations in select areas (for too a high a fee), and CBSN streaming which is a free, CNN-like channel.
     
  19. Orion9

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    Yeah if ABC and NBC follow CBS's lead, then I'll be able to watch all the channels I could watch in 1962 only for $18 instead of free. (And with even more commercials per hour.) Oh boy! I can't wait! :D
     
  20. nmetro

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    Not only are DISH and Turner far apart, TBS and TNT could go on 5 December, 2014:

    http://deadline.com/2014/11/turner-warn-tnt-tbs-blackout-dish-network-1201288316/

    As for CBS, if it goes, Showtime and CBS Sports Network will go with it.

    And CBS could pull the Viacom card, meaning even more dropped channels. Of course Tiem-Warner could do the same with HBO and Cinemax (Speculation).

    Well, at least we still will have Disney, NBC Universal, and FOX owned channels; for now.
     
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