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UFOs Fact or fiction?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Steveox, May 12, 2004.

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  1. jonstad

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    Well there's the key isn't it. They would have to "want" to make contact.
     
  2. Geronimo

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    Well if they are that rude I don't WANT to have contact. So there!
     
  3. Danny R

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    For those who heard UFO sightings in mexico.Its false it was something to do with the weather in mexico

    I'm surprised you believe the lies coming from The Man.
     
  4. Steveox

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    Well we have air radar spreads into mexico.The US Air force didnt pick any UFO up on their radar.So it might be false.
    Well maybe the aliens dont want you to hear them.Ever wonder why BIGFOOT didnt want to be seen?
     
  5. HappyGoLucky

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    I wouldn't exactly call how we talk to domestic animals "communication". Now while many people, including myself, think that sometimes our pets understand every word we say, there has yet to be any conclusive proof of that concept. We make verbal sounds which pets and other animals like porpoise have been trained to react to in a certain manner, but that doesn't constitute "communication". Do animals communicate with each other? I believe they do, especially higher mammals like porpoise, whales, apes. We can't yet understand their "language" but perhaps in time.
     
  6. Jim Parker

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    I did get a kick out of that movie. It is funny in a slap stick kind of way.
     
  7. Jim Parker

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    And sometimes I wonder about our one example. :rolleyes:

    Supposed we jumped into our "Way back time machine" (for all of you Rocky and Bullwinkle fans), and gave Newton a package of his cookies, a printed copy of Steven Hawkings paper on black hole evaporation and a DVD. He would figure out to eat the cookies, could read but not understand Hawking radiation, but what would he think of the DVD?

    I was going to design and make a neutrino telescope last year. I figured that the patent on that would make me rich! Just think, no more waiting for the stars to rise above the horizon, just point it straight down and see the neutrinos that had passed right thru the earth. One small problem: I could not figure out a way to stop the neutrinos from going in the eye and right on out the back of the head. :mad: Maybe the more advanced civilizations have solved this and use neutrinos instead of radio waves.

    FYI, if you don't know, neutrinos are one of the smallest sub atomic particles. They very rarely interact with any other matter, and will literally travel thru a light year thick block of lead with only a 50% chance of interacting. There are trillions passing thru your body every second. They are created by the fusion process in every star.

    If the aliens spend all their time studying the results of their experimental data, maybe they just can't decide what to do. It's called "anal-ysis paralysis". :rolling:
     
  8. Jim Parker

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    Been a long time since I've worshiped at the porcelain alter. :)

    Reminds me of a story in Analog magazine a couple of years ago. Archaeologists were studying ruins on an alien planet. They were trying to understand the hieroglyphics on the temple. They showed the rising sun and everybody carrying baskets going in the left door. In the afternoon, they went in the right door. Must be some form of sun worship, right? Nah, it was a recycling center, glass in the morning, plastic in the afternoon. :)
     
  9. Steveox

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    Hey my cat came when i called her.She must know when i wanted her.
     
  10. Geronimo

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    Since when is "understanding every word" the only possible form or level of communications? I know a lot of people that don't undertstand everything that is said to them. Nevertheless some communication is possible. In this case Steveox made an astute point.
     
  11. HappyGoLucky

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    I assume you've read about the neutrino detectors that have been built. One of the largest resides in a very deep cavern and consists of a huge sphere filled with deuterium and lined with photo-detectors. When a neutrino hits one of the deuterium atoms it gives off a faint burst of light, which the detectors catch. They get a few hits a day, which is remarkable considering the enormous number that pass through undetected.
     
  12. HappyGoLucky

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    His cat is simply giving a trained response to the sound. It isn't a real communication, or at least not in the same sense of two-way communication with a sentient being. Even when two people of differing languages "talk" to each other, there is typically a level of understanding between them due to body language and gestures as well as some word recognition. That is far different than calling your pet.
     
  13. Nick

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    Happy, please do not diminish the significance of steveox's comments.
    I'm sure his cat has worked long and hard training stevox to call when
    din-din is ready. ;)

    "Dogs have families; cats have staff."
     
  14. Jim Parker

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    I think the strangest one is in Antarctica. It is in a lake that is under a mile or so of ice. The photo detectors point down! They detect the neutrinos that originate in the northern sky and travel thru the earth.
     
  15. Jim Parker

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    Suppose you had a time machine. What event would you most like to go back to see? And why? BTW, the time machine will only allow you to see and hear. No changes to the time line permitted.

    I'll start of with some easy ones:

    The life and death of Jesus. For the western world, the last few years of his life have had more impact on our culture than anything else. No judgment on where this is good or not, just a statement of fact.

    The assassination of JFK. Was there a conspiracy and a cover up?

    What really happened at Roswell. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Who was Jack the Ripper? Scotland Yard needs to finally close the book on this.

    How did the Egyptians build the pyramids? Same for Easter Island. Who built Stonehenge and why. Our ancestors were no dummies; moving those blocks was an incredible feat of engineering. I just want to know how they did it.

    Silly events are also permitted. Who invented the Happy Face? Was it really Forest Gump?
     
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    Wait a second. Even a trained response to a command is communication. While he hopefully is not having long hear to heart talks with that cat (bo offesnse intended Steve) he and the cat communicate nevertheless. I think that supremely intelligent aliens could find a way to communicate with us---unless of course they are nowhere near as intelligent as they think they are.


    Like I said these aliens of yours just sound rude to me. Where were they raised? Are you sure that tehya ren't French?
     
  17. dfergie

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    Perhaps for safteys sake we should all order and keep Slim Whitman albums just in case"Mars Attacks"
     
  18. Steveox

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    Nick i dont have to call my cat when din-din is realy ,I just open the can and she comes running.
     
  19. Geronimo

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    Slave labor can accomplish a lot.
     
  20. HappyGoLucky

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    One of my fav quips of old is:

    Call a dog and it comes running. Call a cat, you get its answering service. :D
     
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