Uh, OK, why do we have Daylight Savings Time?

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  1. Mar 9, 2015 #21 of 144
    DN2014

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    I live 30 miles from the east end of the central time zone
    So, I would perfer DST year around.
    When it ges dark in dec.at 4 Pm, that's dumb.

    But with DST, North Platte Ne. has day light till 11 PM in the summer.
     
  2. Mar 9, 2015 #22 of 144
    TheRatPatrol

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    Hmmm.......I didn't have to change my clocks. :D :p
     
  3. Mar 9, 2015 #23 of 144
    James Long

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    We had that in Indiana ... we had to change everything else. Indianapolis and Fort Wayne TV markets tape delayed programming for an hour to make "Eastern Time" programming show up at the same time year round. South Bend and other border markets played the Eastern Time feeds. Every meeting invitation had to clearly specify the time and time zone (nine years later that is still an issue with some companies).

    With the change to DST most of the state is always on Michigan Time or Ohio Time or New York Time with two clusters of counties on Chicago Time. Eastern vs Central is probably a bigger lasting controversy than DST vs anti-DST.

    For the convenience of commerce I appreciate following DST with most of the country. I would not want to stop observing DST without the rest of the country also stopping observing DST ... or going DST year round nationally.
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    Thats one nice thing here, all of our primetime starts at 7 all year around, late news starts at either 9 or 10 depending on the station.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2015 #25 of 144
    camo

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    I say DST all the time or grow some balls like Arizona, and say we will do what we want.
     
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    yosoyellobo

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    I went two years without changing my clock in my car. Only bother every once in a while. :)
     
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    camo

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    I don't change my car clocks either... :up: Its my way of protesting.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2015 #28 of 144
    dpeters11

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    My parents in Crossville TN would agree with that.
     
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    Drucifer

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    Well are there any plans to un-tilt the earth?
     
  11. Mar 10, 2015 #31 of 144
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    I just don't see why people hate DST so much. I prefer it big time, but it just isn't that big a deal to adjust for me. Maybe that's part of the reason I don't see why people get mad about it...

    At this point I think its more about lighter later rather than being light so early it gets wasted with people still sleeping in bed..
     
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    James Long

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    I believe the controversy comes from people who do not see a reason for the time change. Read the studies and you'll find less support for DST among people who don't care what time it is and more support for DST among those who can find value in having an hour of sun at the end of the day instead of the beginning. For those active near sunrise or sunset it can make a difference.
     
  13. Mar 10, 2015 #33 of 144
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    Actually that has nothing to do with Arizona time policy, all of Mountain and Central have a 7 - 10 prime time. I have never heard a definitive answer as to why that is, the best and most logical theory I have heard is that in the early days of national TV they would start prime time at 8 eastern - 7 central, mountain stations had to tape delay an hour and by the time it was 8 Pacific it was 11 Eastern so the network just started the 3 hour loop over. With modern distribution systems this is no longer necessary but the schedule is set so we stick with it.
     
  14. Mar 10, 2015 #34 of 144
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    On DST I am in the all year camp. I could use the hour in the evening, morning daylight is just wasted for me. As for schools, what law says school has to start at 7 or 8 in the morning?? Change the schedule to later, the kids will thank you. There have been scientific studies showing that the natural sleep schedule for young people is a couple hours later than they have to get up
     
  15. Mar 10, 2015 #35 of 144
    armophob

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    I want it gone. But it is in our electronics.
    I have a couple things in my house I will have to set every time the time change happens.

    But I am good with that. Just stop this stupid thing that screws with everyone's sleep patterns twice a year.
    It is very manipulative and controlling.
     
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    Rich

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    Sometimes paradigms are a difficult thing to stop. I saw a brief movie about that at work years ago. Texas Instruments was so set on using LEDs instead of LCDs in things like watches that they almost went out of business. I had one of those dreadful watches that you had to press a button on to see the time. Real PITA in a car while driving.

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    I was in Moses Lake, Washington a few years ago and the guys there were raving about being able to play golf at "night". Don't remember when it actually got dark. Strange place, I'd like to live there.

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    In our town the various grades start at different times. No way could there be one starting time, too many kids.

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  19. Mar 10, 2015 #39 of 144
    Stuart Sweet

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    I'm militantly anti-DST, and I'm sure I won't change my mind. I see only one potential benefit of DST for anyone, and that's the idea that if you are the kind of person who sleeps late, you can sleep late in the dark and not be bothered by sunlight. For close to 30 years I have had jobs that require me to wake up between 4:30 and 5:30 and the big difference in my life is, with DST there are days I don't see the sun unless I'm lucky enough to get a midday break.

    Stop messing with the clock and simply learn to live on standard time. If you have trouble getting up in the morning, if you want to sit on your porch and watch the sun set, well boo fricken hoo. Grow up.
     
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  20. Mar 10, 2015 #40 of 144
    Nighthawk68

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    I am anti-DST, to me seems like its a waste of time. There is an extensive article on Wikiperdia, many countries have changed their take on it in recent years. Russia went to permanent DST in 2011, and then abolished DST alltogether at the end of 2014.
    To me, the further north you live, the less need there is for DST as the days are quite long to begin with. I have lived in a couple countries (DK & SE)at lattitudes above 56 and 57 degrees N. In the midst of summer, sun rise happens at 4:27 and sun set at 22:15, it was still light out at 23:00. And DST didnt start there until 1980, and I dont remember any issues with school or anything. To me, I still dont see the benefit of DST, what difference does it make if the sun comes up at 3:27 or 4:27???

    Europe and North America will continue with DST together or (hopefully someday) abolish it together.

    I could go on her forever, but...

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