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Uninterruptible Power Supply

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by JohnTSmith, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Using a good UPS on any expensive electronics or one containing "valuable" content is just a plain a good idea.

    Now that you can get a name brand unit for under $40 nearly anywhere...its just a good idea that is also affordable.
     
  2. Richierich

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    I paid $57 for the APC Back-UPS ES 550VA & $85 for the APC Back-UPS ES 750VA. I wanted to have a little more backup time and more outlets to plug all of my stuff into.

    Plus I trust APC better than Belkin.

    Also, just bought an "OWNED" HR23-700 and I am buying right now another WD20EADS to replace the internal drive in that DVR so I should have plenty of recording capacity now with a Total of 8,000 Gigabytes or 8 Terabytes of Recording Capacity.
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Fry's regularly puts the APC 550VA on sale for about $40-$44.

    I suspect I'll be picking up another 2 of those some time soon.
     
  4. barryb

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    ;) Keep an eye on Best Buy as well. I cleaned our local store out when the APC 550 went down to $39.
     
  5. David MacLeod

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    any pc\server that is on gets a shutdown signal from 1 of 2 of my eaton powerware 9125 units (mine are white 1000va) with network built in after predetermined times for each.
    does not control dvr's but since I am here I can shut those down while the eatons shut everythng else down through a client application.
    after power has been back on for specifies times the units send startup signals.
     
  6. dreadlk

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    My whole system is powered by an older APC 1500. Thats the Plasma TV, 5 different receivers, DVD, DVD-PVR and a stereo system. Everything on I get about 25 minutes runtime, but in all instances I switch on my Honda 3000is generator long before that. It's super quite and produces pure sinewave power for about 12 hours.

    Now heres the trick, the newer APC 1500 like this one are a joke if you want long run times.
    http://ilakta.com/images/P/apc_back-ups_rs_1500.jpg

    The older 1500 from 4-5 years ago last about 3 times longer.
    http://ariekanarie.nl/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/1500-3.jpg

    Notice the Batteries in the UPS are about 4 tmes bigger than the ones in the newer models.

    You can go on ebay and pickup the older 1500 Smart UPS for about $30-$50 and then get some new batteries for about $100 and then you will have a proper UPS.
     
  7. Richierich

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    The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what you get, anything is better than no protection.

    I have no reboots that I am aware of and maybe that is why I don't have alot of other problems also. An instant shutdown is very hard on a hard drive.

    Dirty power or varying voltages are bad on electronic equipment so why not provide the best and cleanest power and be able to power everything down gracefully if needed.
     
  8. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    All true.
     
  9. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    I know quoting yourself is weird, but I didn't want to start a new thread to ask about UPS.

    I realize UPS are safe, unlike my late father. Now, I can use them. I bought 2 Cyberpower CP550SL UPS - 550VA/330W units back in January 2008. They've remained unopened and unused. Do you experts think these are still ok to install?
     
  10. hasan

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    Sam's Club carries an APC home theater model that has superb features and decent run time. I think it's around $110. It is designed with home theater in mind, so it has some very interesting features, including a nice LED display which shows input voltage, input frequency, output voltage and frequency, power load in watts, and expected run time in minutes, given the current load. I have four of them, and am most pleased.
     
  11. hasan

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    Sure, but the battery llife may not be all that good. You can always get new batteries for them (assuming they are user replaceable). The APC series of UPSs are all user replaceable, but I don't know about the Cyberpower ones.
     
  12. sbl

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    You can replace batteries in any UPS. Some may be easier to get at than others. The ones in my Belkin 1200 are a real bear, since it wasn't designed to allow for user replacement, but I've done it twice so far (second time was easier.)

    If you bought the UPSes in 2008, I'd say they are probably fine, especially for DVR use. You may want to do a test to see how long they'll run on that load. If it's less than 30 minutes, buy new batteries or replace the UPS (often cheaper if you get it on sale, but recycle the batteries if you do.)
     
  13. sigma1914

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  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Interstate Batteries, found in many locations carries replacements for most UPS batteries (and of course APC has a replacement program for their upss). For convenience, I've been buying mine at the local Interstate store.
     
  16. Jason Whiddon

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    Ive got a 500 back-UPS es thats about 3 years old, and still surviving battery tests. I'm gonna move it to the bedroom now that I have MRV and am using two dvr's a lot for recording. Bought a new 700 for the living room.
     
  17. Rich

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    I've been using eSATAs for years and I've never had one reformatted by anything. Still, I have read posts about that happening. I do have UPS on all my HRs, but as soon as the power goes out, I shut them all down whether they have an eSATA on them or not. The UPS devices will not give you very much time for recording or viewing. They do provide you with the time to properly shut down your various electronic devices.

    If you find the wattage ratings confusing, the VA rating is wattage with Power Factor factored in. I go by the wattage ratings.

    Also, be aware that when they say that the UPS has eight "protected" outlets that is usually four surge protected outlets and four outlets on the actual UPS.

    Rich
     
  18. spunkyvision

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    I was looking at getting the APC H15BLK AV 1.5kVA H Type Power Conditioner, Is it ok to set it up on it side? I don't have 17" W as the size states but I do have 17" H
    I have a 13"w x 28"h x 30" d area but wanted to make sure it was safe to do it since it doesn't have a battery.
    thanks.
     
  19. byrd

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    I've been using a Cyberpower CP1500AVRLCD UPS for about a year, and have been very happy with it. I've always been a believer that anything that is essentially a computer should be plugged into and UPS. Out where I live, we have frequent power surges and spikes. If you pay attention, you can usually hear the UPS kick in during a quick surge event or voltage drop.

    The CP1500 is large enough for me to plug in my HR24, PlayStation 3, Acer Aspire AH340-UA230N Home Server, and Samsung LN52A750. I can get about 30-40 minutes of backup time, but if I'm home during a power outage, I usually just power everything off gracefully withing 15 minutes or so. I also have an Onkyo TX-SR707, but there's no way the UPS could handle that with the other hardware, so it's just plugged into a surge protector.

    Also, like the APC1500 that someone else mentioned, the CP1500 has an Amp Meter, A Voltage Meter, a Wattage Meter and an Estimation of How Much Time It Can Support Everything Plugged In. It's about $35 cheaper than the APC though. The CP1500 does a good job of smoothing out power, and I've never had any worries about powering my entertainment center on my generator. I don't power the Onkyo on the generator, and the multiswitch isn't on the UPS either, but I'm less worried about loosing a multiswitch than the other hardware.
     

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