I got DISH and the Vip622 but I don't have it hooked up to a phone line. Does that mean there is no way for me to ever receive a firmware update? Do you have to have a phone line to update? The reason I don't have it hooked up to a phone line is because the phone company charges out the wazoo for any kind of line and for internet access. I'm currently running my computer and Vonage for my phone off a cable system that my apartment complex provides. The internet access costs about $30 and the Vonage costs about $30. Is there anyway for me to come out cheaper and be able to hook up DISH to a telephone line or am I getting by about as cheap as I can and any other combination of phone and internet access will just result in me paying more?