Upgrade to Genie?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by philster20032003, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. CraigerM

    CraigerM Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn’t putting the HS-17 in the closet or the laundry room block or slow down the WIFI signal especially when the door is closed?
     
  2. Rich

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    Lots of variables in that situation. Might, might not.

    Rich
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    not really, if it's not metal door
     
  4. trh

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    And it won't impact anything if you're using wired clients.
     
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  5. slice1900

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    Which is the typical situation for knowledgeable users who know that wireless clients should only be used as a last resort. If you are using them, depending where it/they would be used you can figure whether a closet/laundry room/etc. is workable for the HS17.

    The point is that its placement is a lot more flexible than an HR54 that has go next to a TV (unless you use a long HDMI cable etc.) A friend of mine has an HS17 inside the suspended ceiling in his basement. Not sure if that's "Directv recommended" but it works for him.
     
  6. FarNorth

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    Okay, here's my situation: I have an HR44 that feeds 2 wired and (soon) 2 wireless minis. I've had this main unit for maybe 4 years and it is getting a little scoochy. Locks up once in a while, hard to wake up, etc. One of these days, it is going to fail so I am thinking I might want to be proactive and change it out. I'm not really worried about 4K since DTV doesn't offer much programming and because I've A/B tested 4K vs 1080 from my Rokus and FireTVs on my 75" Sony and I am hard pressed to see any difference. Maybe the Sony has a great upconverter but the PQ sure seems to be identical. FWIW, I have 5 TVs in the house but I'm single, never have more than 2 TVs on at once.

    All that said, is the HS 17 plug and play? Other than 4K - which I won't use - are there any other advantages to the HS 17 or should I just go with the HR 54?
     
  7. MysteryMan

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    Take your pick. The HR54 has a 1 TB Hard Drive. It can be connected to a TV. The HR54 works with receivers, DVRs and clients. For 4K service it needs a C61K-700 client. The HR54 can be connected to more than one C61K-700 but can only work with one 4K stream at once. The HS17 has a 2 TB Hard Drive. It is a headless server. It cannot be connected to a TV and works only with clients. For 4K service the HS17 needs a C61K-700 client. The HS17 can be connected to more than one C61K-700 but can only work with two 4K streams at once.
     
  8. carl6

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    The HS17 is actually designed to work better with wireless clients, which you indicate you want to use. The physical design is a tall upright unit (which must be placed in the normal upright position), and the wireless antennae are at the top oriented to provide a better omnidirectional signal than previous designs. I personally like the HS17, but strongly recommend using wired if at all possible.
     
  9. kevinwmsn

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    I thought with the HS17, you can't have other DVRs or receivers. Must be Genie or minigenies. Where with the HR54 you could still have HR24s and H25s.
     
  10. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    This is DirecTV / AT&T policy. With an HS17 you can only have clients, no other DVRs.
     
  11. Grafixguy

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    I've had an HS17 for more than two years. Very little in the way of complaints with the wired clients, but the wireless units are not as dependable. If they weren't in locations that I don't use for anything serious (office for one and the other gets moved between a spare bedroom and porch), I'd run coax and replace them.
     
  12. philster20032003

    philster20032003 Cool Member

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    So I should probably provide an update Thanks to all that replied, it was very helpful. I was able to get DirecTV to upgrade all my equip to a HS17 and 3 C61K clients for free as long as I signed a 2 yr commitment which I reluctantly agreed to. I was able to schedule the equip replacement and all was going well. I waited all day on the scheduled date and DirecTV never showed up. I called DirecTV and they said my install was cancelled as the homeowner (me) wasn't home. I was here all day waiting, DirecTV said the tech said I never answered the door which was a fabricated untruth. I told them because this was their error they needed to send the tech out the next day, DirecTV said the earliest they could get out was a week. I told them not good enough and cancelled the install and I cancelled my DirecTV account after 15 yrs. They didn't fight me or try and save me they said OK done. I had to pry out of them how to return the equip, and ironically I received an email 5 days later with instructions on how to return the equip. I tried the AT&T TV Now streaming app which is trash and signed up with YouTubeTV which has proved to be a great and only $50/mo saving myself $100/mo. Good riddance DirecTV and thank you YouTubeTV.
     
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  13. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Amen !
     
  14. aquatic

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    wow. Just wow. So I called. I have a HR44-700, HR24-200 and a HR24-100. The 44 is throwing parity errors--disk drive is getting ready to blow chow, clearly. I figured I'd call, and upgrade to an HR54 with the wired C41K-700 for 4k TV (in the living room) and get a wireless mini for the bedroom. Easy peasy and gets me new stuff without having to unpack/repack and all that. An hour and a half, and 5 transfers later, they "don't have" that upgrade package, but that is immaterial anyway as the HR54 is still considered a "Gen 1 Genie" and it's NOT an upgrade from a 44 --> 54. My only option was to go to an HS17 and then it was a Big "Maybe" if I could mix/match. I still wanted my HR24-100 fired up and on the air with the others--I'm paranoid and often set up redundant recordings to ensure that in case of HW failure in the receivers, I still get my shows recorded. So, I switched gears mid-stride and just had them check the 44 for errors and in 3 days I'll get a replacement.

    Perhaps I will go with the HS17, toss on an external 4T+ drive and go with Minis...but not today.
     
  15. trh

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    No mixing/matching. If you go to the HS17, you must get rid of your HR24s.
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    actually ALL Hxx and HRxx
     
  17. trh

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    I was specifically talking to aquatic who was told he could upgrade his 44 to an HS17 and was concerned about his two HR24s.
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I did the note just in case...
     

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