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Upgrading from 720p to 1080p HDTV - will I notice a difference?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Indiana627, May 5, 2008.

  1. May 5, 2008 #1 of 33
    Indiana627

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    I currently have a Sony LCD rear projection 720p HDTV. I'm seriously thinking of upgrading to a 1080p set (either a Panasonic plasma or the new Sony LCD flat panels coming out starting this month).

    Would I notice much of an improvement on 1080i shows?
    Conversely, would 720p shows look worse?
    Any other pros/cons?

    I'm trying to decide if spending over $2000 is going to be worth it. I can just hear the wife now "I can't tell a difference. Why did you have to get this new TV when the other one was only 2 years old?"
     
  2. May 5, 2008 #2 of 33
    GlennJ84

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    If you are going to spend the money to go 1080p... just make sure you get a 120Hz panel. The Difference is night and day on LCD's. As far as directv picture... it seems to be about the same.

    Makes a huge difference on Blu-ray and Gaming.
     
  3. May 5, 2008 #3 of 33
    Indiana627

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    Yeah, I'd definitely get the 120Hz if I went with LCD. What about 1080i that I get OTA (like my CBS affiliate). Would I notice any difference on a 1080p TV?
     
  4. May 5, 2008 #4 of 33
    phat78boy

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    It really depends on how discerning you are with video. While I think there is a huge difference, I am one of 2 out of about 30 different friends and family members who agree.

    I upgraded my projector from a 720P to a 1080P model several months ago, I think its night and day... my wife only thinks I needed to waste money. Go figure.
     
  5. May 5, 2008 #5 of 33
    Indiana627

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    Our wives must talk.
     
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    I am with phat, but really believe it is personal preference, viewing distance, etc.. My Panny looks amazing to me, girlfriend thinks it is a "little" better than the 720p Vizio we moved to the bedroom. Also contemplating the move to BluRay in the upcoming months, really can't wait to test that out!
     
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    It also depends somewhat on size and viewing set up. Obviously the bigger the screen and the closer you sit to it the easier it is to see more detail. I have a 37inch 720p set and I know with out a doubt that a 1080 set would be a waste unless it was noticeably larger. Because of the distance we sit from the TV and the fact that I don't usually bother to wear my glasses I know I wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all. Now if I was doing a 60+ inch projection setup I'd probably be able to tell the difference.
     
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    tonyd79

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    Most of my friends and family have 720p rear projection sets (most DLP). Everyone of them stops and stares at my 1080p Sony SXRD when they visit and comment on it.

    I don't see it as much as they do (the difference) but they sure do notice.
     
  9. May 5, 2008 #9 of 33
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    That's the most important factor, but even if the seating distance and size are within desired specs, it'll still be hard to see the difference in 720p or 1080i.

    The difference with 1080p (bluray) would be very noticeable, but I don't think you'd find much difference with D* material.

    Of course, the particular TV comes into play as well (how well it upscales to 1080p, for example).
     
  10. Indiana627

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    My current 720p set is 50" and I sit about 9-10' feet away. The new sets I'm looking at are a 50" Panasonic plasma (the PZ80 or PZ85) and the soon to be released Sony W4100 or Z4100 flat panel LCDs in either 46" or 52" (not sure if the 52" would fit in my entertainment center). Now that you know size and distance, can anyone offer anymore opinions about my possible upgrade?
     
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    Well, as you can see from this chart, in order to get the full benefit of 1080p from a 50" screen, you'd need to be sitting about 6' away. The benefits don't even start to appear unless you're closer than 9'.

    So, at 10' from a 50" TV, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, let alone the difference between 1080i and 720p.

    You are, however, right at the sweet spot fo 720p

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  12. CuriousG

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    I use a 65" 1080p Mits DLP and a 106" projected 1080p Sony LCoS. On OTA, I can see a small increase in sharpness and detail between the 1080i and 720p networks on the best material. On D*, not so much.
     
  13. Indiana627

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    Wow, that is some chart. I've never seen that before.
     
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    I have always heard (and I have found it to be very true in my personal taste as well) that less than 40 inches don't bother --can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p over 40 inches it's worth it because you can tell on most sources (D* included) at 40 inches exactly --you be the judge ( I personally go 1080p)
     
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    All 720P / 1080P sets are not created equal. I did the research and looked at every option. I opted for the Pioneer 5080 to replace my 4 year old Samsung DLP. There's no comparison. The Pioneer blows the older Sammy out of the water. Plasma still has a better picture than LCD... motion, color, black levels, etc, etc, etc. I know the arguements against, but for my application and budget, this was the perfect TV.
     
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    I went from a 36" 720p set (KD-36XS955) to a 46" XBR4 at around 12' distance and it's night and day better. I'm glad I did it.
     
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    The KDF-55WF655 is a 55" set.

    But either way, upgrading sets can result in a tremendous difference, regardless of the resolution.

    Upgrading to the Sony 46" KDL-46S3000 (720p), would have probably given you the same night and day difference. You will not be able to discern a difference between 1080p and 720p on a display that size and from that distance. The human eye just doesn't work that way.
     
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    720p on a good set looks good, 1080p on a good set looks better.

    All my friends are amazed every time they come over and watch a show or movie on my Sony KDS-60A3000


    My parents have the Sony 46XBR4, and I wow at the picture on that when I visit them. Both of the above sets are 1080p, 120Hz HDTVs. Lets leave 720p/1080p out of it for a minute. The video processing alone on the newer displays is what makes the biggest difference.


    And of my friends that have 720p sets all prefer watching tv at my house if that helps.
     
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    I can't say enough about the 1080p models from Panasonic. I've owned the 50PZ700u since last May and I love it!

    Best bang for your buck in my opinion now that the PZ85 model is so cheap. If you want great black levels and great color go with the 1080p Plasmas form Panny over a LCD model.
     
  20. keith_benedict

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    This is true with the exception of those who want to use their TV as a computer monitor too. I realize he didn't mention that as a requirement, but I figured I would throw my 2 cents in.
     

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