Upgrading Hopper 2 to carbon UI

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  1. Oct 5, 2016 #1 of 95
    mattyhoops

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    I've been reading online that you can force the Hopper 2 to upgrade to the new carbon UI. Does it work? Is it safe? I can't find mention of the force upgrade in this forum...

    Has anyone had their Hopper 2 upgrade automatically? The last software update on mine was 6/22. That seems like a long time!

    Thanks!
     
  2. Oct 5, 2016 #2 of 95
    HobbyTalk

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    For me yes it works and yes it is safe.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2016 #3 of 95
    mattyhoops

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    Hmm. Didn't work for me. Did the play play recall code. Selected download now. Just rebooted like it does overnight. Nothing changed. Same software version.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2016 #4 of 95
    Blowgun

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    When the time comes and they dump that UI heap on the HwS, I hope there will be a code to force it back. :)
     
  5. Oct 6, 2016 #5 of 95
    James Long

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    Yet that UI fixes some of the stuff you complain about in other threads. :)

    For those who do force their HWS over to Carbon ... there is no force back.
     
  6. Oct 6, 2016 #6 of 95
    mattyhoops

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    Well, it did work. I jumped the gun and turned it back on too fast. Once I turned it off after the reboot it started downloading right away. It was late by the time it was done so I only explored for a little while. Here's my immediate impressions:

    1- I don't know how with just a software upgrade, but the PQ is improved! The picture seems more vibrant and less artifacts around moving graphics (sports scores, news tickers, etc). I know some people don't notice the PQ, but going from DTV to Dish 2 years ago I noticed it immediately. I sit about 8-9 feet away from a 55" TV. That's really been my only complaint with Dish. My hopper has worked flawlessly for 2+ years now.

    2- The UI is a nice new look; I was actually hoping for a little bit more though. The functionality seems about the same - just may be different ways to do it now.

    3- As others have said I do prefer the 3 hour block on the old guide.

    4- When you access the DVR screen and go to the Schedules tab at the top....once you move down to navigate between scheduled recordings I can't find a way to get back to the tabs at the top without exiting the DVR screen completely. This is the only "bug" I have found so far.

    5- Seems more 'friendly' with external HD. You can transfer recordings from the program listing in the DVR screen. Don't have to go to separate menu now.

    The Apps hadn't finished loading so I couldn't explore those yet. What are some other 'bugs' people have found?
     
  7. Oct 6, 2016 #7 of 95
    tylorert

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    How do you force it?
     
  8. Oct 6, 2016 #8 of 95
    patmurphey

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    "Skip" left and right moves you between tabs even if you are down in the list. Up arrow gets you to the tabs, but in the schedule you would have to go through all of the previous days first.
     
  9. Oct 6, 2016 #9 of 95
    mattyhoops

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    Menu >> Settings >> Diagnostics >> Updates

    On your remote key: play, play, recall

    Message will pop-up asking if you want to download now or later. If you select now the hopper will re-boot, then wait a few minutes for the download to start. Takes about 30 mins.

    As others have said, upgrade at your own risk. Once done you can't go back to the old UI.
     
  10. Grandude

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    I downloaded it shortly after it became available and it took a bit of learning on how to navigate around in it but would not want to go back to the old way.
    I have two Hopper 2s and planned to leave the second one with the old format but it downloaded automatically when I wasn't looking so my plans to run comparisons was dashed. Just as well as I like the new UI and have NO major complaints with it.
     
  11. Troch2002

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    Yep, I was going to do the same thing.
    And in less than 24 hours, the other Hopper was Updated automatically.
     
  12. Blowgun

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    And yet, that UI also includes stuff that's much worse. :)
     
  13. tylorert

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    Did not work
     
  14. Bitspitter

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    I upgraded mine with no issues. I was already planning to upgrade to the Hopper 3, so my main reason for the upgrade was to enable the Ethernet transfer of recordings to the Hopper 3. Activated the Hopper 3 and with a back-to-back Ethernet connection transferred all of my recordings. Very slick option. No screwing around with an external drive.


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  15. Troch2002

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    Is it Hooked up to a satellite dish?
    And it also has to be activated first.

    Last I saw you got a Hopper "Trash find" that you were attempting to use for OTA.

    So whats the actual status?
     
  16. tylorert

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    Was before activated
    Was owned not leased according to dish
    When I do the command it just shuts off and reboots
    HDD Failure, new drive not recognized
    Connected to the internet (was using it to stream from my server)
    Is connected to satellite (1000.4 EA) with 40 signal on 72 ONLY
    OTA works but no guide data
    Correct G4 Smart card
    No joeys in the system
    Connected to a DP44 with a ViP922 on the line
    And that's it
     
  17. Troch2002

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    Well I see numerous issues with your setup .
    You have far worse other issues with that setup, My guess thats why the Hopper won't function properly.
    Also the Hopper has been deactivated by the previous owner.

    So unless they give 14 year olds DISH accounts now, I doubt your parents will have Directv and Dish Network since financially that makes zero sence.
    On that note the Hopper I doubt has been reactivated.

    2nd you need more than a DPP44 for a Hopper and a 922 to be on the same system.
     
  18. tylorert

    tylorert Active Member

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    Wha else do I need?
     
  19. Troch2002

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    Well start with a Hopper that actually has a functioning hard drive.
     
  20. tylorert

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    List things I need
     

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