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Uplink Activity for July 2012

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. zippyfrog

    zippyfrog Mentor

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    I thought I read on this forum somewhere that there is a rule where Dish has to have all PBS channels available in HD at some point in the next year or so. If that rule is accurate, will more changes like this be happening to Spotbeams to free up some spotbeam space for all that HD?
     
  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    The last move created yet another transponder with 9 channels (on 119). Previously that transponder had less than nine channels.

    Western Arc is the tightest for space as the satellites also have to support DISH's MPEG2 SD service. Currently DISH is using 22 transponders on 119, 110 and 129 for national HD channels. 31 transponders are used for spotbeams (SD and HD local markets). The other 29 Western Arc transponders are used for SD services (one is leased for the SD distants service).

    There are 169 unique HD feeds on those 22 transponders (including the temporary Olympic channels) ... if DISH packed them out to 9 channels per transponder they could add 29 more HD channels.

    On Eastern Arc DISH has cleared off 61.5 ... all national channels are on 20 transponders on 72.7 (with one transponder vacant). 61.5 is used for locals and SD with several transponders currently vacant. 77 is used for locals and DISH Latino channels with several transponders currently vacant.

    The recent Western Arc changes include channels taken off of spotbeams because they now are served by full ConUS transponders. The "ConUS" footprint of 129 does not cover Alaska and Hawaii so channels placed there either are not available in Alaska or Hawaii or need to be mirrored on spotbeams to be visible. The footprints 110 and 119 cover Alaska and Hawaii. Moving the main channel from 129 to 110 or 119 means DISH can remove the channel from spotbeams and use that space for something else.
     
  3. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    The last I read, DISH made an agreement with a group of 30 PBS stations and does not have to carry every PBS station in the nation in HD.

    There is an agreement for DISH to "carry one carry all" for local HD stations. If a market has one HD station carried then DISH must offer carriage to all HD stations in that market.

    That agreement does not mean any market has to be carried in HD ... only that if DISH carries one channel in that market they must offer carriage to all HD channels. Channels can still refuse carriage and if a channel is not broadcast in HD or is not the primary channel on the broadcast signal it is not protected.

    The agreement to "carry one carry all" is phased in. The deadline for 100% of carried markets is February 2013. The current threshhold is 60% of markets with at least one HD local must have all HD locals offered carriage.
     
  4. levibluewa

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    but how much space would be gained for the W. arc if they switched everything to mpeg4 sd/hd?

    Also, I've noted a lot of "spotbeam" space holders on the 119...is DISH planning on moving spotbeamed locals currently on 110 & 129 to 119? if you know. Spokane & Medford for example.
     
  5. James Long

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    Lets do the math: Look to the Eastern Arc and see how many transponders are used there for anything other than locals and spotbeams. That is approximately how many ConUS beams DISH would need on the Western Arc as an MPEG4 service. I believe that count is currently 37 transponders.

    DISH is currently using 31 transponders for spots on Western Arc, leases one transponder for the SD distants service and has 50 other transponders.

    Subtract the 37 transponders needed for an Eastern Arc size ConUS service and one has freed up 13 transponders.

    They could be set up for backup purposes (in case something happens to the 110/129 transponders). It looks like both markets have everything carried in HD that is broadcast in HD.
     
  6. James Long

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    1 change seen 7/30/12 at 2:52pm ET (v20)

    Other Changes
    8136 WQED (13 Local) PITTSBURGH, PA (PBS) 110° 29s9 (NWPennsylvania) SD Pittsburgh, PA market Hidden - OTA Mapping Added (13-01)

    8448 Channels
     

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