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Uplink Activity for the Week of 7-5-10

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by P Smith, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Interesting. Thanks for your reports.
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Could you please do check switch and check again ?


    [Perhaps EPG does carry additional flags].
     
  3. willymac

    willymac Cool Member

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    I did a check switch earlier today around 2pm or so after I had rescanned for locals, but I hadn't noticed if 383 was there before or after since I blocked out all the platinum channels after I dropped it. When I go to All Channels, there is no 383 but there is the 9423. I'll try another check switch later on tonight after I finish my movie.
     
  4. willymac

    willymac Cool Member

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    I just did another check switch and still no 383 HDNMV. I still get the 9423. No change with the check switch.
     
  5. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    If you'll press Info two times, what sat it at.
     
  6. willymac

    willymac Cool Member

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    its on 72
     
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Apparently your channel 9423 (eastern arc from 72.7) which does not have the "preview" flag set in the data we see is showing up in preview. My expectation was that without that "preview" flag set pure eastern arc customers would not be seeing the channel.

    The only explanation I have is the "referral channel" that P Smith and I have talked about in previous threads. 9423 @ 72.7 has that referral channel descriptor pointing at the other 9423 in the system (the one at 110). 9423 @ 110 does have the "preview" flag set. Apparently besides sharing EPG (in this case between 9423 @ 72.7 and 9423 @ 110) the "preview" flag is also passed through. But not the mapdown. (The mapdown is present on 9423 @ 72.7 but without subscription or a preview/free flag on 9423 @ 72.7 the mapdown isn't showing on the receiver.)

    Complicated, but interesting. The other option would be a "TV Japan" style freebee in EPG data but why would DISH put this free preview via the EPG and not use the simple flag in the regular channel descriptor data?

    Perhaps they just want to confuse us! :)
     
  8. ShapeShifter

    ShapeShifter Godfather

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    Yes! I think the E* engineers are just playing games with the various bits, and watching to see what the various uplink reports say about it, and what theories people may postulate about them as they try to reverse-engineer the data. They're messing with your minds, trying to frustrate you!

    E* Engineers --> :up_to_som
    :scratchin <-- J.Long, P.Smith, et al​
     

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