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Using esata drive...seeing old recordings on internal!?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by grecorj, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    What drive/enclosure combo are you trying to use and with which HR are you trying to use it?

    As far as settings... When you go from an internal drive to external anything kept on the drive has to be re-done. This includes series links, guide data, poster art, cast and crew info, etc.
     
  2. wco81

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    Hr20, one of the first models.

    The drive, I'm not sure but it came from a FireWire 800 drive, put in an eSata enclosure from Amazon.
     
  3. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Please let us know what model hard drive and enclosure. Believe it or not that can make a difference.
     
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  5. P Smith

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    YOU could do a copy from your old drive to the new - it would save all your setting, etc
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    I do not recall anyone reporting using that enclosure. You may be heading out into uncharted waters.

    There are some drives that just do not work well with the HR's, without knowing the exact make/model of the drive it can't be ruled out as the issue.

    You may want to read through this thread, there's some good info in there you may need.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=160800
     
  7. RunnerFL

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    He was already told that, but thanks for playing... Doesn't seem like he wants to open up the unit.
     
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  9. wco81

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    Is there a FAQ somewhere with the recommended list of drives and enclosures?
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    In the thread I gave you a link to a few posts up.
     
  11. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    There's a link to a thread that RunnerFL posted earlier.
     
  12. wco81

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    Thanks.
     
  13. Rich

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    Any Green Caviar WD drive should work on an HR20-700. Use a Thermaltake (TT) docking station. I'd send you a link to the docking station, but Amazon won't let me. Something new.

    Rich
     
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  16. TomCat

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    It's actually easier than this; you do not have to disconnect or reconnect the cable, and as a matter of fact you should not, because the eSATA connector is not designed robustly enough to survive a large number of connects/disconnects. It is designed to hold up physically only to a small number of connects/disconnects because it is assumed (quite incorrectly) that this is how it would be used; never connected more than a dozen or so times ever in its lifetime. Certainly it may last for hundreds, but why tempt fate when you don't have to?

    The good news here is that it doesn't matter.

    To boot to the internal drive, simply power down the external drive at the beginning of the reboot; the DVR will see only the internal and boot to that.

    To boot to the external drive, simply make sure the x drive has been powered up for 30 seconds or so; the DVR will see both drives yet default to mounting only the x drive.

    It can't mount both at once. Wouldn't adding that capability be a nice feature for them to add?
     
  17. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    "because the eSATA connector is not designed robustly enough to survive a large number of connects/disconnects."
    Specifically eSATA cable and connectors/recepticals designed for much more re-inserts then regular SATA connectors (I recall these limited to 50, but better check SATA org specifications).
     
  18. wco81

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    I browsed that thread. Looks like D* lists a limited number of off the shelf products but if you want more capacity, it's DIY, meaning you need enclosure or dock and certain types of drives.

    May do that but but this is an HR20 so I'm not sure I'm going to have that very long. 1 TB may be enough for that, since a 2 TB drive and enclosure/dock is going to run over $150, it appears.
     
  19. TomCat

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    You are probably right about all of that, P. But the bottom line is this:

    1. You don't have to be concerned with disconnecting and reconnecting the cable. I've proven that by not disconnecting them as my SOP for many years now.

    2. Because of number 1, you don't have to be concerned with any possibility of a short shelf-life for those connectors.​

    You probably know me well enough to understand that I like to see evidence supporting any internet "factoids". But another thing about me is that if there is enough doubt cast on something even without evidence (such as whether connectors were or were not designed for robustness) I think the smartest thing to do is to use caution, just in case that "factoid" turns out to be a real fact.

    And the good news is that it doesn't even matter. But if you are someone regularly disconnecting and connecting those connectors, you will then not be surprised when on connection number 51, things don't work out the way you might have first planned.

    So the word to the wise here is still "be careful" and "minimize the number of connections".
     
  20. P Smith

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    If you want to keep it connected all the time, then it would definitely elongate a life of eSATA cable and connectors.
     

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