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Using old old Dell monitor as a TV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by TBlazer07, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    OK, I am going to start a collection for our grumpy guy so he can buy a monitor that'll honor the HDMI input, if only to stop the grousing and guessing in this thread.....

    :nono2::mad::nono:

    :D
     
  2. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

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    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=208330
     
  3. Diana C

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    I wasn't supporting it, I was simply suggesting you read more carefully (or query more clearly).
     
  4. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I'm not going to bet or guess.
    I was somewhat surprised many years ago, that a DVI output could connect to a TV component input, with not much more than a breakout adapter.
     
  5. Diana C

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    There are many flavors of DVI: DVI-D (digital), DVI-A (analog) and DVI-I (both). This is how a VGA (analog) device can be attached to a DVI device. As P Smith points out, making it work requires more than just digital or analog signals, it also requires the appropriate sync signals. HDMI has all the required signals for DVI-D, but many DVI only monitors don't support the HDCP handshake that confirms they are just a monitor and not a recorder. The 3 wire component analog outputs used on HD consumer devices don't have the sync signals required for DVI-A/I.

    Bottom line, the options for connecting the typical HD satellite receiver to a non-HDMI display are:

    1) Use composite or SVGA and live with SD resolution (if available)
    2) Use component (if available)
    3) Use HDMI to DVI adapter or cable (and lose access to copy protected content)
    4) Use an active adapter module that can breakout the required sync signals from the component signals to support DVI-A or VGA.

    Pretty much all computer monitors with DVI connectors support DVI-I (you can feed either digital or analog signals through the connector). Most (but not all) computer video cards ouput DVI-D and/or VGA (adaptable to DVI-A with a simple adapter).

    I think that covers the options...P Smith, anything I missed?
     
  6. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    :)

    I'd recommend the tiny Sony 3D set that lparsons found at Buy More. $199. I got one, and it answers first hand my questions on 3D without a major outlay.
     
  7. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    A few, but it's irrelevant for OP.

    [If you want full list of combinations - you should make a matrix: all type of inputs vs outputs and put in each cell a solution ;)]
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That could work if
    - that source had DVI connector with active analog RGB signals - what was it ?
    - that cable had corresponding wires to carry RGB separate signals.
     
  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm at loss of meaning the following ... I thought the thread's starter defined boundaries for discussions. So, posting anything practical wouldn't help OP.
    At least something usable like Shades228 did in post#42
     
  10. veryoldschool

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    It wasn't a question of could/if.
    It was a statement that it did work.
    "The source" was an old ATI video card [9600 I think].
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Tah-dah !!!

    I'm continue carving my post in a range of usefulness for OP, not just sharing all my years and stuff experience ;).
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    Not sure what the big "tah-dah" here is for, from this:
    "I'd say" this thread has run its course and there is little more to be gained, so I'm fading away.
     
  13. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    That's what I mean "carving" .... Video cards are out of a scope of the thread.
     
  14. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    craving or carving?
    scoop or scope?
     
  15. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Sure, carving, scope.
     
  16. Diana C

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    I think we hit that point a page ago. ;)
     
  17. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    Well, the "SOURCE" is actually a C31. Unfortunately in the first post I was unable to qualify that at that time.
     
  18. TBlazer07

    TBlazer07 Grumpy Grampy

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    Not on my monitor. Every channel gave me the HDCP error message (monitor is not HDCP compliant) when using HDMI from receiver to DVI on monitor.
     
  19. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Say 'thanks' to the new model C31 FW. I would expect same 'advantage' in new FW versions for other models.
     

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