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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by lartomar2002, Nov 5, 2010.

  1. Nov 5, 2010 #1 of 13
    lartomar2002

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    i now have a permanent vacation site for the rv(tired of traveling). can i have a directv dish set up there and then just take my rec. with me?
     
  2. Nov 5, 2010 #2 of 13
    fluffybear

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    Yes, you would have to purchase and install the dish yourself..

    When purchasing a dish, try and purchase the same type of which you currently are using.
     
  3. Nov 5, 2010 #3 of 13
    texasbrit

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    remember if it's outside your locals spotbeam you won't get locals.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2010 #4 of 13
    fluffybear

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    unless the OP has an RV waiver and is getting DNS service.
     
  5. Nov 6, 2010 #5 of 13
    bsprague

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    This used to be very simple. It no longer is and is difficult to explain because there are so many variables and entities involved.

    My understanding is, now that there are 18 million customers, the FCC has forced changes. The local stations, cable companies, advertisers and sports franchises have lobbied the FCC for their benefit. In turn, DirecTV and Dish have had to alter their Terms of Service (TOS). It is made more complicated by the availability of local channels over satellite instead of the more traditional delivery of cable and over the air.

    For a decade or so the DirecTV TOS encouraged you to include an RV as an extra bedroom. Getting national networks from Los Angeles and New York started off as a standard feature for all customers. After a few years you had to say you had an "RV Account" and sign a "Waiver". Then, for an extra $14 a month you got the national networks that used to be free when DirecTV had only a couple million customers.

    The current TOS requires that you DO NOT share an account between a stick house and an RV (or any other location). Each has to have a separate account. Yes, you pay double. You may be able to put one account on suspension while you use the other. But that gets complicated with leased receivers. Common practice is that lots of RV owners "cheat". In other words they do it like they have done it for a decade. Their RV is their "extra bedroom" with an installed receiver or they move their receiver from the house to RV and back as they travel. They set up their own antennas or have one installed on the RV roof by an RV specialist who is NOT a DirecTV contracted installer.

    As we have become used to our TiVos and DVRs it gets worse. Pretend the goal is to record NBC News each night or Gray’s Anatomy once a week in your RV away from your stick house. You can get an Over the Air box for your receiver which won’t work if you are not camping near a city. You could convince DirecTV to give you the DNS waiver, which won’t work if you using a “stick house” account. Or, as many have done since they invented “spot beams for locals”, you phone DirecTV and tell them you are “moving” to a new “service address”. But, that doesn’t work very well anymore because too many were pretending to “move” to get around sports franchise “blackouts”. (Last year I went through five CSRs before one agreed to change my service address while I was under a different spot beam for 8 weeks.)

    As you read this, keep in mind there are lots of RV owners that don’t read the TOS or talk to CSRs. So they may say I am incorrect.

    What works well? Under the current TOS, you should get an RV specialist to set up the RV and get a dedicated account. This is especially true if you want HD, DVR and national networks everywhere. If you have an older SD TV in your RV and live near one of about 20 major cities all programming still comes from a single satellite that I think is called the “101”. My RV has an antenna that tracks it (even while driving) and I get all the channels within about 250 miles from home. The R16 receiver is permanently installed in the RV and feeds two SD TVs. It still works well outside the 250 miles if I forget about NBC Nightly News and Gray’s Anatomy.

    What does not work well? Expecting to get National Networks when you are outside your spot beam does not work. Expecting Nationals in places outside the 20 major cities where the locals are on different satellites does not work well. Expecting to get HD from a simple dish, does not work. (To get HD you have to have an antenna with multiple LNBs pointed at several satellites. Pointing them correctly is beyond the skills of most RV owners or it requires an expensive automated roof mounted antenna like the ones made by MotoSat. ) Getting DirecTV technical service in an RV does not work well, especially if you have a “stick house” account.

    To the original poster: Get a dedicated RV account. Or, take a receiver with you to your new RV park. Buy an antenna (dish) and tripod online. Then hook it up yourself or get one of your new neighbors to show you how. Make sure you know what you are asking for if you call DirecTV for help. CSRs can get very confused and confusing because, relative to their normal work, RV owners are few and infrequent callers.
     
  6. Nov 6, 2010 #6 of 13
    bsprague

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    The RV Waiver does not get you locals. It will get you New York or Los Angles stations. Under the current DNS rules with a new RV Waiver you may only get one of those cities. Worse, "locals" are supposed to be included in standard service, but if elect to get DNS nationals when you are not "home" you pay $14 extra a month.
     
  7. wilmo

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    I am new to the Direct TV deal as well and have an RV set in one location. I cannot get a straight answer from the Direct TV folks so I am glad to find this site.
    I have 5 boxes, one HD, and 4 reg. and have a Slimeline Satellite Dish SL3S4NR2-02 at home in So Cal. My property is in So. Oregon. What I want to know is if I take one of my non-HD boxes and buy the same exact Dish I have at home, will I able to get reception in Oregon, or anywhere else for that matter?
    Besides the Dish is there anything else I need,etc. What kind of channels will I get? The same as my pakage at home?
    My relative has a Dish set up there already but I know it is the not the same model. Will that one work or do the rec. and dish need to be the same match? Thanks.
     
  8. Kevin F

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    An AM21 plus an antenna could work to receive locals as well.

    Kevin
     
  9. carl6

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    You've got this posted in two different forums. Check the other one for responses. (It was moved from Dish to DirecTV forum by one of the mods.)
     
  10. BobStokesbary

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    Bill Sprague is spot-on in his description of current DirecTV TOS. And as he states most of this is driven by the content providers more than DirecTV. But, as he also states, some take the "bedroom" receiver along when they make RV trips.

    If, D* were ever to clamp down on this practice, I would quickly change to Dish for my RV. They have a no contract plan that you can turn on and off by the month for your RV trips and the equipment is much less expensive than D*'s. For intermittent use, this is a much better option than anything D* offers.
     
  11. Shades228

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    You can do the same with DIRECTV if you own the equipment. You can just deactivate the account and turn it on when you want. The only reason you can't do this with leased equipment is because youhave to send it back each time. Get some owned equipment and setup a second account and you're fine.

    You are still allowed to use a leased receiver in an RV on your primary account but not get locals outside of your DMA. This hasn't changed. This however is different because it's a permanent address now so it would require a second account as per TOS.
     
  12. BobStokesbary

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    I don't see DirecTV offering any packages like this at these prices for the RV. So, yes, I do use the bedroom receiver for my RV now. What I was discussing was the option for someone who really wants to have two accounts but with one of them on a temporary basis.
     
  13. Shades228

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    Without going through the configuration what package are you talking about? You would need to get a dish and receiver, owned, and just install it. Then you just call in and activate a second account and choose a base package. Then when you're done you just disconnect the account, or suspend depending. If you're looking for an "equipment package" then no it won't exist but you can usually find a dish cheap on CL, ebay, or through a dealer. Owned equipment there are plentry of threads on how to get it.
     

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