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Vancouver Winter Olympics Coverage

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  1. Jan 22, 2010 #41 of 765
    Maruuk

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    Judicious use of the DVR skip function thankfully will be eliminating most of the tedious NBC "up close and personal" bushwa and their endless commentator interview and opinion pieces. Canadian culture frankly is not so exotic to be interesting as was Italy. I'll be happy to watch the competitions, and skip all commercials and most of the filler crap which comes off pretty much the same way NBC covers New Year's Eve in Times Square, the Macy's T-day parade, and the Rose Bowl Parade: insipid, vapid, pre-scripted fluff. Click, click, and click and it's gone like a cool breeze.
     
  2. Jan 22, 2010 #42 of 765
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    Why would anybody after 60 years of horrible standard def TV want to continue to watch it in significantly reduced resolution if they didn't have to? I watch NHL hockey, the fastest game on Earth, in 1080i and have no problem with motion blur or motion artifacts.

    I see zero motion artifact differential between 1080i and 720p, but I definitely see MAJOR resolution differences between the two formats. Pic detail is SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED in 720p on a 42" set. An argument can be made that 32" and smaller sets can't reveal that differential. But at 42" you can damn well see a major detail improvement at 1080i.

    Also major TV reviewers like CNET have concluded that the 120/240Hz etc scanning multiples are imperceptible to the human eye and are just gimmicks to sell TVs. Not that there isn't TECHNICALLY an improvement on paper in terms of motion updates, just that the human eye with its infamous retention of image component can't distinguish increments at those speeds.

    Interesting that with all this supposedly lobbying for 720p from sports fans who love that resolution and full-screen 60Hz refresh rate, that 1080p sets are gradually pushing out 720p sets in the marketplace. 42" and above 720p sets are becoming an endangered species. I call that progress! Death to 720p, long live the 1080i king! And may Prince 1080p ascend to the throne in rapid succession!
     
  3. Jan 23, 2010 #43 of 765
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    OK ok! :) I confess. NBC has done a better job covering more sports more broadly via the family of channels the last couple of rounds of Olympics. I am very thankful those parallel streams are there. But even with Beijing in found certain events such as javelin, shot put, pole vault for example barely got any time other than a 60 second summary at 1055pm. Seems the prime time primary Network coverage in particular is limited to certain events, plus they seem to reduce coverage on the other channels during that time. Perhaps that was partially a time zone issue with Beijing and Athens games.

    I'd like to see more louge, biathalon, traditional ski jump, etc type old school coverage, not just the top 5 finishers summary they sometimes revert to.
     
  4. Jan 23, 2010 #44 of 765
    Tubaman-Z

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    +1 You listed several of the summer events that I would like to see more coverage of. In addition to shotput, they showed very, very little discus or hammer throw. And +1 on the winter coverage as well.
     
  5. Jan 24, 2010 #45 of 765
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    You'll remember long ago, back in the late 80's I think, D* did this big complicated PPV deal with the Summer Olympics where they showed EVERYTHING on multiple channels if you were willing to pony up an extra $139 or something. Bottom line: it was a complete train wreck, they lost a ton on it. It didn't help that the guide was always wrong and you ended up missing half the stuff you paid for.

    Ever since then nets have been leery of the fringe sports. Watch for the rise of curling, though. The Italian Winter Olympics featured a lot of cute young girls and wild histrionics in the "sport" and it kicked up interest a lot.
     
  6. Jan 24, 2010 #46 of 765
    beachmonkey

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    Wasn't that also carried by cable and known as the "Olympics TripleCast" with a Red, White and Blue Channel?
     
  7. Jan 24, 2010 #47 of 765
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    Yeah -- the 'Triplecast' was from the Barcelona games in '92 -- Three channels, and at least where I lived, the model fell apart less than three days in, resulting in our cable system giving us most of it for free.
     
  8. Jan 25, 2010 #48 of 765
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    I have read posts (in the past) from others outside the U.S. that Olympic coverage of events in their countries has, in their opinion, more breadth and does not take on the U.S. Network feature story/focus event style of presentation. Anyone care to comment on the validity (or not) of that?
     
  9. Jan 25, 2010 #49 of 765
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    In the past, the CBC spent more time on live coverage. If figure skaters were taking to the ice at 8 a.m. local time, it was shown live across all time zones. NBC was focused on making the coverage appear to be live, when it was sometimes delayed 12 or more hours. NBC likes to intersperse their "live" coverage with lots of athlete interviews, etc.
    Now that CBC is on the sidelines, we'll have to wait and see if CTV continues the tradition of "live across the nation." Although this year's Olympic games are in the Pacific time zone, NBC will continue to delay coverage for West Coast viewers. To me, that's just stupid.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2010 #50 of 765
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    I'd call it over managed.
     
  11. Jan 26, 2010 #51 of 765
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    and seems like bell tv will have 5 ad free HD channels for the olympics.
     
  12. Jan 29, 2010 #52 of 765
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    Is there a well-formated simple printable TV schedule?
     
  13. Jan 29, 2010 #53 of 765
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    Will we get a mix channel like D* gave us with the Summer Olympics and now with the Aussy Open?:confused:
     
  14. Jan 29, 2010 #54 of 765
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    Its possible that the TV you have doesn't convert and scale the 720P signal very well. ESPN on both my Plasma and LCD flat screens looks great. I found an old blog that discussed the difference between 720P and 1080i and why ESPN chose 720P. Here is part of it:
     
  15. Jan 29, 2010 #55 of 765
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    Did we get a mix channel in the summer? I remember the remaps of UHD, USAHD, etc and the basketball HD and Soccer HDs
     
  16. Jan 29, 2010 #56 of 765
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    I've never seen a lick of difference "stepping effect-wise" between 720p and 1080i on any screen under any circumstance or type of sports. I'm well aware of the technical differences, however the human eye can't discern them. What it can discern is definition. 720p lacks any detail clarity compared to 1080i. It's just that a lot of folks don't care. Incredibly, and this is true, guys love HD in general, and women are like "Oh, I guess it's better." I've seen that many times.

    And many folks simply don't care about background detail. Tale a show like Ugly Betty. It's all about faces, close-ups, mugging, people large in frame. It looks fine in ABC's 720p. Large objects in frame come across fine in 720p, you don't notice the loss of clarity at all.

    But for sports like football and NASCAR, both of which get shown a lot in 720p, even the cars are slightly blurry. Not crisp. And the background detail like the fans in the stands and anything tiny in frame are lost to a sloppy blurfest--at 720 these details simply can't get resolved. So you get that old TV feeling of watching TV instead of being there.

    As opposed to watching say a PGA event in NBC's excellent 1080i. It's stunning. The littlest details, blades of grass, fans, the line of the putter shaft, the ball, all crystal clear. It's like being there. A world of difference.

    My 1080p TV works fine. That's why I can see the difference...BIGTIME.

    Thank you TV gods for bringing us the Olympics in true HD!!!
     
  17. Feb 1, 2010 #57 of 765
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    If you look at the NBC Olympics schedule it seems like Universal Sports will just be a mirror of Universal HD or vice versa. So people using OTA will get one and everyone else can get the other and see the same coverage. It looks like all they will show is repeats, recaps, and round table discussions anyway.

    I had Time Warner during the 2008 Olympics and they made Universal HD free and also added USA HD for those two weeks but then took them both away. What was the situation for D* during the last Olympics?

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