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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. Oct 4, 2009 #2201 of 5379

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City

    Off topic for a sec...a question..
    I used to Have WSBK-38 back in the day here in Manhattan on Teleprompter Cable...which went on to become Time Warner. I used to look forward to the Hockey games cause they always had a game on saturday afternoons. Fred Cusick called many a game back then. Mid 80's lets face it there were not an abundance of channels back then so they used to fill in channel capacity by beaming out of town TV stations I had Philly Stations The Great Gene Hart called many of those Flyers games too,and a channel from Atlanta, you know TBS? heh heh..But they didnt have hockey that is they did b4 the Flames went up north to become Calgary. WSBK has no more baseball??

    For the record as Channels expanded here in Northern Manhattan (Manhattan was divided back then with 2 companies)
    WSBK was replaced by a news channel called Satellite News Channel, that went defunct and CNN was put in its place.

    The Philly Stations went bye bye when HBO came back to Northern Manhattan..HBO was outsed back then as it used to be on here by Showtime.

    Somehow they saw some future for TBS as that remained but it shared with a Movie service at nights called Uptown...That too went under and was eventually replaced by Bravo by then TBS had found its own 24hr channel spot on the dial..

    For the Record the NY SportsChannel (evolved into the FOX Chain) shared with ESPN..
    MSG Network used to share with the Weather Channel..

    YES & SNY didnt exist..and USA network with it's NHL contract coming to an end didnt hit northern Manhattan till channel capacities & technology increased back in late 80's..And where did NHL go after USA..ESPN..then the horrific Sportchannel America..then ESPN again.

    WSBK used to have good movies too..

    back to our program...VERSUS...err uh i grow tired of this
  2. Oct 4, 2009 #2202 of 5379

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Do you mean NESN? They show the Bruins, not CSN-NE.

    If Versus isn’t returned by playoff time, I’m getting cable installed for the playoffs (simple install since cable is already in the house with cable internet).

    The smartest thing that the Red Sox and the Bruins did was to OWN their own regional sports network (NESN), and not some big corporation or cable company.

    No offense, but radio? radio? what is this, the 1940’s? Sorry, but I want to WATCH hockey in all of its glorious HD, not listen to it. :D

    True, at least you could get WSBK on the big dish back then. ;)

    Yes sorry. Me too. :nono2:
  3. Oct 4, 2009 #2203 of 5379

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Highly doubt that is true since that is exactly what DirecTV wanted in the first place but Comcast told them to pound sand.

    The real fact is that they are all at fault in some way.
  4. Oct 4, 2009 #2204 of 5379

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    I wouldn't doubt it. DirecTV moving it to the sports pack saves them a ton of money per month. VS isn't a channel in demand most of the year and for fans passionate enough the $12.99 is worth it. However it cuts off 6 million viewers or $1.2 mil a month. That hurts VS a lot.
  5. Oct 4, 2009 #2205 of 5379

    Peter305 Hall Of Fame

    May 24, 2006
    I'd be fine with Versus going to the Sports Pack. I'd pay for it during the Standly Cup playoffs and then drop it...
  6. Oct 4, 2009 #2206 of 5379

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
    Not me. I'll never pay 13 smacks. I want it back just the way we had it.
  7. Oct 4, 2009 #2207 of 5379
    Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    It may be of note that DirecTV also freed up an HD slot by not closing a deal with Versus. Maybe it's just a coincidence that would occur just as the NFL season is getting underway.
  8. Oct 4, 2009 #2208 of 5379
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Or maybe that's just when the DIRECTV/Versus contract expired :shrug:
  9. Oct 4, 2009 #2209 of 5379

    capecodsooner Legend

    Jan 20, 2007

    Good catch on my post. I thought about that after hitting send.

    I know NESN has the Sox and Bruins and Comcast (CSN-NE) has the Celtics but I was trying to including the whole Comcast vs Direct long view in my fence sitting.

    I can't completely cut off Comcast since they have the Celtics. I can't completely cut off support DTV since they are my only access to NESN but are keeping me from getting VS....whatever their view on the $$ I know it will be passed on the me in spades.

    RADIO is the only option...other than hauling my but up to the TD Garden or whatever they call it today. That means even more scratch so Radio it will be for now.
  10. Oct 4, 2009 #2210 of 5379

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    that is not much Stargate Universe averaged more than 2.35 million viewers.
  11. Oct 4, 2009 #2211 of 5379

    WyldCard Cool Member

    Aug 14, 2008
    Wonder if those numbers somehow include or exclude people who watched via various streaming websites.
  12. Oct 4, 2009 #2212 of 5379
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    I'm pretty sure Nielsen doesn't yet include those sources, especially in overnight ratings reports. (For the longest time they didn't even include DVRs, tho that was also partly the fault of the people wanting the reports.)

    And typically those sources don't make more than 1 to 2% of difference.

  13. Oct 5, 2009 #2213 of 5379

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
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    seltech Legend

    Feb 5, 2008
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    jefbal99 Hall Of Fame

    Sep 7, 2007
    Me too, but I'd rather DirecTV get a fair deal for Versus, than pay through the nose for it.

    I'm a Sports Pack sub, so it doesn't matter to me if it gets moved or not.

    DirecTV is looking at it from the view of the number of subscribers in a specific tier, while Comcast/Versus is looking at it from a specific tier view.

    Versus says that they are offering DirecTV the same deal that Echostar/Dish Network has. From what I've read, Versus is in Dish Networks top tier of Top 250 which has around 6 million subs, roughly the same that DirecTV has in the Sports Pack. If you want to charge the same rate, then you get the same number of subscribers.

    Versus/Comcast can't have their cake and eat it too, its just not how life works...

    If Comcast/Versus wants to stay in the current tier, with a price increase, then include the rest of the Comcast RSNs (that would add Philly and NW and make Bay Area and Cali HD feeds always available, once D12 is online, they all get 24x7 slots) in the deal. Comcast gets its money and DirecTV gets additional penetration into those markets. If DirecTV adds subs, then Versus/Comcast gets the added fees for the additional viewers of their channels.

    Comcast/Versus will never make that deal because they would lose too many pissed off, overpaying cable subs.

    As another stated, I can't wait for the rest of the MSOs/Dish to have their deals with Versus/Comcast expire.

    The fans of the NHL, IRL, WEC, outdoors programming, Cycling, Bull Riding, etc are getting the shaft here.
  16. Oct 5, 2009 #2216 of 5379
    Ira Lacher

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    Apr 24, 2002
    During the 80s, the NHL had Wayne Gretzky. No one watched. Why? Because the NHL was seen in the States only in franchise market areas and SportsChannel America, which had penetration in only a few non-NHL market areas. There are more NHL franchise markets today, but a similar lack of national exposure.
  17. Oct 5, 2009 #2217 of 5379

    tullahomatom Mentor

    Sep 7, 2009
    The NHL needs to step in and look out for the fans. A solution is out there.
  18. Oct 5, 2009 #2218 of 5379

    Peter305 Hall Of Fame

    May 24, 2006
    It would be nice if the NHL would step in to help to solve this, but they have already made it pretty clear that they are backing their good friends at Comcast, which is hardly surprising. So, I'm not holding my breath that they are going to do much more.
  19. Oct 5, 2009 #2219 of 5379

    aa9vi Godfather

    Sep 3, 2007
    Way to be netural Bettman.... That snippet is a downright endorcement, on the NHL's page no less, for the outright larceny of Versus.

    We now know which side the NHL is on. Face it folks, same old NHL, they don't care about the fans. It's a bunch of back door deals and shady politics.

    I switched my package from Total Choice (a legacy package) to Choice Xtra to get the NHL channel. CBC, and dare I say some of the RSNs, have better coverage than those jagoffs at Vs anyhow.

    Versus: May your network and parent owner ROT.
  20. Oct 5, 2009 #2220 of 5379

    ziggy29 Icon

    Nov 18, 2004
    San Antonio DMA
    Or that they want to dedicate another HD slot to PPV. :(
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