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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. Nov 3, 2009 #3041 of 5379

    blackhawkzone Godfather

    Nov 29, 2007
    moving games to vs puts comcast in a pretty good position. you underestimate how popular nd is. They could raise the rates for versus and cable/satellite operators would pretty much be forced to pay it, as they now are for espn.

    they would get lower ad rates, how lower depending on the eyeballs, but the money that they would get from carriage rates would more than make up for it.

    that is how espn was able to outbid fox for the bowl championship series.
  2. Nov 3, 2009 #3042 of 5379

    robmadden1 Legend

    Nov 2, 2008
  3. Nov 3, 2009 #3043 of 5379

    islesfan Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2006
    I didn't mean that they actually gave the NHL the red carpet treatment, only that they sold us fans on Vs. as the only way the NHL would get treated well at a sports network. Versus never made any cracks about poker getting higher ratings. Nevertheless, while they wouldn't go head to head, we all know that ND football would get preferential treatment over the NHL if it ever came up. With that being the case, the "we're the only big thing on this puny network" argument goes right out the window. NHL might as well be back on ESPN. Maybe we'd have been better off if Spike actually got the NHL like they tried before it went to OLN/Vs.
  4. Nov 3, 2009 #3044 of 5379

    islesfan Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2006
    Do you mean "end of 2009"? I am really just hoping that we get Vs. back in time for playoffs. The Isles are only on Vs. a couple of times this year, and I can just catch the replay on NHL Net. Come playoff time, however, I really don't want to have to wait for replays.
  5. Nov 3, 2009 #3045 of 5379

    n3ntj Hall Of Fame

    Dec 18, 2006
    How can that be when ~15M subscribers (from D*) are automatically subtracted from the mix? Sounds like someone is really cooking the books.
  6. Nov 3, 2009 #3046 of 5379

    TonySCV Legend

    Oct 10, 2006
    Easy.. you just use past year's ratings and viewership data that excludes DirecTV subscribers.
  7. Nov 3, 2009 #3047 of 5379

    Wildcat Legend

    Oct 3, 2006
    What is the going "compensation" when you call into DirecTv and complain that you're not getting this channel, especially as a sports pack subscriber?
  8. Nov 3, 2009 #3048 of 5379

    jefbal99 Hall Of Fame

    Sep 7, 2007
    Easy, freeview to all Dish Network subs gives them an additional 9million viewers to make up most of the DirecTV lost subs. NHL is on an up swing right now with Sid and the Pens, Ovie and the Caps. It really has no place to go but up, however, it is a growing sport.
  9. Nov 4, 2009 #3049 of 5379

    WebTraveler Icon

    Apr 9, 2006
    This is flawed. No way viewership is up if you compare total viewers to total viewers. No way that Dish Network subs on free preview are watching MORE than the regular subscribers. If people wanted Versus they'd pay for it. No doubt a few extra viewers on the margins, but not that dramatic.

    The original poster is onto it. Take last years viewers and back off Directv. Then take what is left and get an increase and then pump it as facts. That is the Comcast way at manipulation....
  10. Nov 4, 2009 #3050 of 5379

    Piratefan98 Icon

    Mar 11, 2008
    I got Center Ice free for the year by calling.

    That will pacify me for the NHL regular season, but come playoff time if there's no VS, I'm going to have to put my account on suspension and get cable (temporarily).

  11. Nov 4, 2009 #3051 of 5379

    donley Mentor

    Apr 10, 2008
    I am not a hockey fan. So when I called and complained about the Big 12 football games on Versus, I got 10 bucks off for 6 months.
  12. Nov 4, 2009 #3052 of 5379

    Xsabresx Icon

    Oct 8, 2007
    Not really surprising since Comcast owns the team in one of the top 5 markets.
  13. Nov 4, 2009 #3053 of 5379

    islesfan Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2006
    I would be very happy if the NHL found a loophole and managed to dump Versus and put everything on the NHL Network! (I know NHL Net doesn't actually produce games, but they could lean on local RSN's for coverage and maybe work something out for playoff time). Then Versus can turn back into the OLN and back to obscurity!
  14. Nov 4, 2009 #3054 of 5379

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    I wouldn't count on that, C* owns a part of the NHLN too.
  15. Nov 5, 2009 #3055 of 5379

    nitty316 Legend

    Aug 27, 2008
    So we’ve now gone 2 full months, most of the college football season and part of the hockey season with no agreement. I would argue that those are two of Versus’ biggest draws. Yet we still have no agreement. I’m starting to think there will be no agreement and as future Comcast contracts come up, they will pull those channels as well.

    I’m just a fan looking in from the outside and Versus and DirecTV telling me to bitch to the other one gets annoying because in the end the fans are getting screwed.
  16. Nov 5, 2009 #3056 of 5379

    bjlc Icon

    Aug 20, 2004
    are there even discussions going on? or is it just a time of sitting back and throwing insults at each other?
  17. Nov 5, 2009 #3057 of 5379
    Jersey Girl

    Jersey Girl Legend

    Oct 11, 2007
    Nothing will happen until we get to the next 'Line in the Sand', which is when the NHL playoffs start. Then the next line after that will be when the playoffs moves into the final two rounds, where Versus has exclusivity.

    Until then, nobody will blink. The pressure people have applied obviously isn't enough. Not sure if the pressure in April/May will accomplish anything either, but at least there will be more pressure.
  18. Nov 5, 2009 #3058 of 5379
    Greg Bimson

    Greg Bimson Hall Of Fame

    May 5, 2003
    I'd have to dig up the info, but from what I remember, the first season when Versus (then called OLN) had carriage issues with Dish Network and Cablevision, those issues weren't resolved until around April. That was when Comcast allowed Versus to be put into a different tier than they wanted on both systems.

    The lines in the sand are drawn. And DirecTV isn't going to cave in, not when they've seen Comcast cave in over and over again.

    Now with the surprising news that Malone has negotiated himself out of real power at DirecTV and has given the three Fox Sports Nets that were owned by Liberty Media to DirecTV, I am thinking DirecTV will be making some serious noises to Comcast to get a master contract rolling once and for all.
  19. Nov 5, 2009 #3059 of 5379

    jefbal99 Hall Of Fame

    Sep 7, 2007
    I disagree, I think the next line in the sand is the end of December when the three Liberty controlled FSNs (Pitt, Northwest, and Rocky Mtn/Utah) have their carriage deals with Comcast lapse.

    If a deal on those gets done w/o DirecTV getting a CSN/Versus deal done, then I have no hope.
  20. Nov 5, 2009 #3060 of 5379
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    I"m thinking the next line in the sand is when the freeviews go away at the end of November.
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