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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. Sep 1, 2009 #661 of 5379

    HDinLEXplease Mentor

    Jun 20, 2009
    Give me a minute and I will go to wikipedia and change the date to 9/30/2009 and maybe Directv will see it and have it by then.:lol:

    We all know how untrue many things on wikipedia are.
  2. Sep 1, 2009 #662 of 5379

    Dcm210 Godfather

    Jan 17, 2009
    ah crap yea I just realized people can change things on there,lol well what ever. :)
  3. Sep 1, 2009 #663 of 5379

    Mertzen Hall Of Fame

    Dec 8, 2006
    A channel I won't be missing. Well maybe except for the TDF.
  4. Sep 1, 2009 #664 of 5379

    crawdad62 Godfather

    Jul 16, 2008
    Honestly I'm sport'ed out. I really don't want another variation of ESPN. Not that I don't enjoy turning it on and watching the scores/highlights but I don't need another. I liked VS. because it wasn't alway the same oh same oh. I loved the Tour. I really loved the World Track and Field Championship. Will I miss it? Yes. Will I quit *D to move to Comcast? Absolutely not. I watch a little hockey on occasion but I certainly won't freak if I can't see it. IRL? Yeah that's a bummer. But again I'm not going to jump ship just because if it.

    I think people saying they'd gladly pay extra for VS. are setting a dangerous precedence. Let's be honest, in the grand scheme VS. is small potatoes. Sure there's a lot of people that want it and would be willing to pay extra for it. But there's (I'm guessing) a lot that have never even heard of it and couldn't care less. But there's a lot of channels out there that almost everyone watches at one time or another and once you open the flood gate to bowing to each channels demand it becomes an issue that everyone would say was too much. Heck I probably wouldn't care if CSPAN wanted more and we ended up paying for it (I've never ever tuned it in) but when you've got >150 all figuring they can ask for more you got to figure *D isn't going to absorb it. They'll pass it on to the users.

    I say call VS. bluff and hold the line. I can do without it. I want it but I certainly don't want to set a precedence just to get it.
  5. Sep 1, 2009 #665 of 5379

    j2fast Godfather

    Jul 15, 2007
    Up until today Versus was getting $.18 per viewer I believe. Nothing like asking for a 60% increase in the current climate.
  6. Sep 1, 2009 #666 of 5379

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Espn classic is still in CHOICE
  7. Sep 2, 2009 #667 of 5379

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    I'm bummed about all of this. I never thought D* would drop a sports channel. I just don't know where to start. So I won't. :( ;)
  8. Sep 2, 2009 #668 of 5379

    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    And some of us never thought we'd see the day D* wouldn't add a sports channel (CSN NW and CSN Philly), but they can't if Comcast won't be reasonable or uses a loophole in the law to keep them off satellite.
  9. Sep 2, 2009 #669 of 5379

    Dcm210 Godfather

    Jan 17, 2009
    well D* better think of something to make up for the loss. There are people that are die hard hockey fans that can live w/o ST and D* all together. but this is clearly not D*'s fault at all.
  10. Sep 2, 2009 #670 of 5379
    Cpt Guavaberry

    Cpt Guavaberry AllStar

    Oct 15, 2007
    Lost my job earlier this year and it's a tough job market, still looking. I was trying to justify the D* level that I have. Now Versus is gone. Not everything, but with college football and hockey to begin. I'm very disappointed. I know it's been said, but take a market check Comcass. I won't switch to you and commit to your monopolizing ways. I'm currently under no contract with D* and I love my hockey. I'm going to anyone except Comcass that can show me the most NHL at the lowest level. Sure hope the bandwidth gods allow me to remain with D*. Over all, these have been my happiest three years of viewing the airwaves.

    I don't suppose it'll do much good to complain to D*, but I'll break down and call tomorrow. Wish me luck.

  11. Sep 2, 2009 #671 of 5379

    stumpel15 New Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    the nhl network is jointly owned by the nhl and comcast, for anyone hoping vs games will end up there for sat viewers it's highly unlikely
  12. Sep 2, 2009 #672 of 5379

    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    Anybody starting to notice a pattern here regarding Comcast? They sure seem to have their $$$ in a lot of sports networks. And one by one those networks are suddenly having problems getting full distribution...
  13. Sep 2, 2009 #673 of 5379

    flipptyfloppity New Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    I'm a big hockey fan, but I can see why everyone else says they don't want to subsidize me watching hockey (this goes double for the NHL network). In the same way that I don't like subsidizing others to watch ESPNU-HD or the NBA network.

    A la carte is the only thing that makes sense to me.
  14. Sep 2, 2009 #674 of 5379
    Coca Cola Kid

    Coca Cola Kid Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2009
    Mt. Morris, MI
    I think DirecTV is the only one being uncivil here. Do they really think calling Versus a worthless infomercial channel is going to help in the negotiations? Half the channels they carry air infomercials 8 hours a day and an additional 20 channels air nothing but infomercials, why are they singling out Versus? Stop the childish name calling DirecTV, give us the channel back now or stop calling yourself the sports leader.
  15. Sep 2, 2009 #675 of 5379
    Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

    Jun 22, 2001
    Received this from DirecTV:

    Dear DIRECTV Customer:

    We want you to know we’re doing everything we can to keep your favorite sports programming on DIRECTV but we’ve simply reached an impasse with Comcast over its Versus channel.

    In sports, we all expect fair play and a level playing field – a competitor that plays by the rules. Evidently that’s not the rule book Comcast plays by. Its unreasonable demands are the economic equivalent of juicing to gain an advantage over its competitors. And our fear is that their egregiously greedy behavior may ultimately kill coverage of your favorite sports on television.

    The deal that just expired was well above market value and beyond what other significant distributors were paying. To add insult to injury Comcast demanded we carry Versus at a 20 percent premium in a new deal, thereby forcing us to take down the channel. We’re not happy about this, but we hope you understand that we must hold the line on programming costs in order to protect our customers from unwarranted price increases in this difficult economic climate.

    We have successfully negotiated hundreds of carriage deals, but sometimes you need to stand up to a bully and there is a strong possibility that if Comcast makes these same demands to other distributors, they will also be forced to drop Versus resulting in significantly reduced exposure and availability of the sports you like to watch on Versus. Maybe that’s what Comcast wants; other than greed it’s the only other explanation.

    You have our commitment that we will continue to negotiate in good faith with Versus to try and reach a fair settlement. We truly appreciate your patience and understanding during this time.

    Thank you.

    Derek Chang
    Executive Vice President, Content Strategy and Development
    DIRECTV, Inc.
  16. Sep 2, 2009 #676 of 5379

    iceturkee DINFOS Trained Killer

    Apr 1, 2007

    i did. love how he tweeted that he had received all this spam from @directv.
  17. Sep 2, 2009 #677 of 5379

    sschr Cool Member

    Apr 9, 2007
    Personally, I am glad they did not bow to Comcast. There should be no reason now that they can't add AMC-HD, since there is a free channel. In my book, the only thing Versus was good for was IRL and that is weak. Not being a hockey fan, it doesn't bother me that it is gone.
    I wonder what other channels Comcast owns and if we can expect this same thing to happen when their time to renew comes up.
  18. Sep 2, 2009 #678 of 5379

    iceturkee DINFOS Trained Killer

    Apr 1, 2007
    well, come about noon saturday, i will have espnuhd, travelhd, amchd, wgn americahd and vshd. i was going to add cable anyway, so...............we will see come march 31 if both dish and cable stay or if the dish is gone.
  19. Sep 2, 2009 #679 of 5379

    jclewter79 Hall Of Fame

    Jan 8, 2008
    Word on the street is that Dish Network will start a 3 month free preview of Versus. Versus will be in all Dish Network packages starting sometime today for the next 3 months.
  20. Sep 2, 2009 #680 of 5379

    WebTraveler Icon

    Apr 9, 2006
    I personally think this is the real issue. Directv is tired of being jacked around on the RSNs. By dropping Versus right at college football time it pressures Comcast. Who needs who more? Hockey is right around the corner.

    Directv can't easily drop the few RSNs it has without major backlash of customers, but takes on Versus first.

    Now when some of the RSNs Directv does have come up for renewal we'll see how Comcast reacts there.

    This is exactly why we need a law that says the provider (cable, satellite, etc.) should not be able to own a channel. It creates all kinds of conflicts and the customer loses. Our Congress is more concerned with attacking each other rather than getting anything real done, but if they had any desire they could put a stop to this in a heartbeat.
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