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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. Sep 2, 2009 #721 of 5379

    Chaos New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Maybe this is Directv finally playing hardball enough to get Comcast Sportsnet Philly? If so, I'm all for it. Nuke anything that Comcast owns until they give in.
  2. Sep 2, 2009 #722 of 5379

    garn9173 Icon

    Apr 4, 2005
    D* gives the Des Moines metro Comcast Sportsnet Chicago as it's primary RSN and Big 12 programming is way down on the totem pole for CSN Chicago.

    Sportspack is a must for me since i'm a Husker fan. Not to mention with sportspack, I receive every midwest MLB team on CSN Chicago, FSN North, FSN Wisconsin, and FSN Midwest/Kansas City as well as NBA and NHL games from these areas.
  3. Sep 2, 2009 #723 of 5379
    Tom Servo

    Tom Servo Icon

    Mar 7, 2007
    That's true, I have no idea what packages it was included in since they've already removed Versus from the channel comparison page. :lol:

    My guess is it was in all packages but the Family one, but I could be wrong. If that is indeed accurate, I'd surmise that the majority of the 14 million households did have access to Versus. It would be nice though to see some actual numbers so we can get an idea of what kind of increase this really was to DirecTV.
  4. Sep 2, 2009 #724 of 5379

    lokar Icon

    Oct 7, 2006
    I think the only reason to get the Sports Pack is for the soccer channels (FSC and Gol TV) or college regional sports like getting Fox Sports Detroit or NESN for college hockey due to all the pro games being blacked out all the time. If you're a soccer fan, ESPN's start this year of HD coverage of the English and Spanish leagues and D*'s great coverage of the Champions League seriously diminishes the value of FSC and Gol TV in my book.
  5. Sep 2, 2009 #725 of 5379

    uncouth AllStar

    Nov 7, 2007
    Speaking of which, has anyone found a full schedule of the English and Spanish league games televised by ESPN this year? And I agree, while I do enjoy my occasional GOL TV and FSC viewings, the recent matches in HD have seriously soured that relationship...
  6. Sep 2, 2009 #726 of 5379

    JMII Legend

    Jan 19, 2008
    South Florida
    Back on post #518 I was guessing at DTV moving VS into the Sports Pack. There was a time when that was the only way to get SpeedTV and all those local FOX Sports channels so I paid an extra $9 (?) a month for it (of course its more $$ now). I really think this is the only way VS is going to get back on DTV, this way DTV can't complain about the extra cost of carrying it.
  7. Sep 2, 2009 #727 of 5379

    doritoofdeath Cool Member

    Oct 20, 2007
    I believe the problem there is that Comcast would not agree to allow Versus to be moved to another tier of service.

    On a side note, I'm a huge Penguins fan and will miss the games on Versus, however I totally agree with DirecTV here in what they're doing.
  8. Sep 2, 2009 #728 of 5379

    primetime Legend

    Mar 23, 2007
    I'm a huge sports fan and I don't subscribe to the sports pak. I tried for a month and found I never watched it. Most of the RSNs are blacked out except for when every channel had Best Damn Sports Show on at once.

    ESPN, ESPN2, ABC, CBS always had the good games so all that was available was 2nd and third rate games that I didn't care to watch when much better games were already on other channels.

    This is what VS is finding. There is a reason they rank 61/71 channels, they just aren't relevant to most people and DTV is doing the right thing by showing them just because they want a price increase they don't get one unless they can show people actually watch the channel or even care about. Fact is most people don't watch or care about VS so why should DTV care or accept a price increase.

    I don't watch ESPN Classic either for the same reasons because I have about as much interest in SMU vs. Central Arkansas State as I do in watching a replay of a "classic" 1977 baseball game. ESPN though has the clout to make DTV pick up the channel. VS doesn't because on the whole their channel isn't popular and doesn't offer programming people want to see. Yes there are some who do but not enough to pull the rankings up from 61st.
  9. Sep 2, 2009 #729 of 5379
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Yeah, not many people stand up and say "Hey look, we're #61!"
  10. Sep 2, 2009 #730 of 5379

    philherz Legend

    May 3, 2008
    I know it's a little off topic, but if VS were to be lumped with some package and you just picked it up for a couple weeks for the NHL playoffs or the Tour de France, would it extend your commitment?
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    iceturkee DINFOS Trained Killer

    Apr 1, 2007
    i'll say it again. there are 3 sides to every story...your side, their side and the truth. i don't think we have heard anything close to the truth here as both sides do their best to spin dispute in their favor.
  13. Sep 2, 2009 #733 of 5379

    flipptyfloppity New Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    I think it's easy to get confused about whether it's about an increase in price or moving the channel to another package. The two are intrinsically linked. If Comcast starts wanting more money for their channels (including Versus), that means DirectTV has to raise their subscriber prices to cover it. The larger percentage of customers a package covers, the more politically difficult it is for DirecTV to raise the price of the package.

    So, since Comcast wants more money, DirectTV wants to either drop the channel or move it to another package. If Comcast didn't raise prices, it's quite likely the channel wouldn't be slated to move.

    You may say $0.06 isn't much, but it adds up with lots of channels doing it. And also realize that if I am paying $0.06 per channel for 10 channels I don't want (ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, NBA TV, NFL TV, soccer channels, ESPN classic, etc.), that's $0.60 I could instead spend on channels I do want if I were only paying for channels I wanted. Given that each of us probably gets at least 100 channels we don't care about, it can really add to the monthly bills.

    Dish has always played a lot of hardball with cable channels. It's good to see DirecTV following along, so as to keep our monthly costs down.
  14. Sep 2, 2009 #734 of 5379

    davidatl14 Icon

    Mar 24, 2006
    D** doesn't need my free advice, but If the numbers and points of contention are as stated in the LA Times article, it would seem that there is common ground that could be reached.

    I Understand fully that Comcast wouldn't want to be moved to a lesser tier. I also understand that D** believes they already pay too much of a sub rate for the " Lowly audience" that Versus brings.

    Selfishly, I wish D would offfer to keep them(Versus) in their present tier and offer a slight sub increase(maybe 0.23 per sub) with this caveat

    CSN Philly,CSN Northwest will both be made available at an agreed amount along with all pending arbitration cases to be dropped.

    All entities get and give a little something for the good of their respective Providers, League Partners and Customers.
  15. Sep 2, 2009 #735 of 5379

    bwaldron Impossible Dreamer

    Oct 24, 2005
    Never happen. A majority of programming on TSN is actually sourced from the U.S. and would have to be blacked out here due to lack of rights. Some of the hockey games they produce themselves are already available here via the NHL Network. But many of the games they carry are simulcasts of Versus productions -- you aren't going to see them down here ;).

    There are "grey market" options for people who want Canadian satellite TV in the states -- but that is not an appropriate topic for discussion on a DirecTV forum.
  16. Sep 2, 2009 #736 of 5379

    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    If they add VS to the Sports Pack, you could add it during the NHL Playoffs and then drop it. FYI, I believe if you don't keep it for at least a month, there is a $10 disconnect fee.
  17. Sep 2, 2009 #737 of 5379

    alachua Cool Member

    May 23, 2007
    I don't think Comcast will bend on that until a government agency and a few appeals circuits tell them they have to. Though, if it ever happens, what a great time to be a reseller in Philadelphia!

    Yeah, I can see how Comcast would think that moving it to a sports tier would be completely unreasonable given their history of having not done that in the past....Oh...wait.

    At least we can finally add hypocrite to their description.

    Bunch of greedy, non-competitive, litigious, lobbying, rotten, hypocritical liars.
  18. Sep 2, 2009 #738 of 5379

    smoelheim AllStar

    Dec 22, 2007
    Because I dont need 25 regional sports networks that all broadcast the same programming (at different times). I am also not a fan of the NBA, soccer, horse racing or college sports (except college hockey).

    Maybe in your eyes that doesn't make me a "sports fan", but I watch hockey 4-5 nights a week during the season, football all day Sunday during the winter, and golf during the summer. But its not worth it for THIS "sports fan" to pay $12 for a handful of college hockey games on CBS College Sports.
  19. Sep 2, 2009 #739 of 5379

    millertime Godfather

    Sep 2, 2007
    VS sucked anyway the NHL coverage was average at best. This might help in some weird way of getting it back on ESPN where it belongs.(Well maybe not but I wish:) My point is ok it is gone so light up ESPNU HD ASAP!
  20. Sep 2, 2009 #740 of 5379

    philherz Legend

    May 3, 2008
    $10 disconnect......WOW!!

    If this ever comes to pass in one form or another, I'll have to check that out!

    Is it buried in the TOS or what???

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