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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. Sep 3, 2009 #781 of 5379

    irlspotter New Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    If D* was paying Comcrap 20 cents a month, shouldn't my D* bill go down by the 20 cents now???? I suggest that everyone write their representatives in congress and senators and State's Attorney to complain. This is definitely consumer fraud. We need laws that prevent cable companies from owning a cable channel, or if they do they need to make it available to all content providers at the average price for all content from that cable company. Or, if D* won't pay the 49 cents a month that Comcrap wants now, then D* should make Versus a pay-per-month premium channel for only 49 cents a month. Or at least give us that option while they are still negotiating.

  2. Sep 3, 2009 #782 of 5379

    nitty316 Legend

    Aug 27, 2008
    I don’t think it’s that easy.
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    bwaldron Impossible Dreamer

    Oct 24, 2005
    Comcast would almost certainly decline having that option being available.
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    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    You should be calling Versus ...
  5. Sep 3, 2009 #785 of 5379
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Folks, it's easy to talk in pennies .. of course if it were simply a few pennies, everyone would agree quickly. Since the impasse has escalated to channel removal and Internet bickering (amongst the parties involved in this dispute), the divide must be more significant than it seems on the surface.
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    dhkinil Icon

    Dec 17, 2006
    One can only hope
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    BenJF3 Godfather

    Sep 12, 2008
    Just another reason for a well regulated Ala Carte option.
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    irlspotter New Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    I have called Versus.....I also have written both senators and my congressional representative. I also filed a complaint with the Illinois Attorney General's office. I also called both the NHL office and the IRL office to see if they could escalate the negotiations. But it is D* who owes me the 20 cents per month. If D* has 10 million subscribers at 20 cents a month, right now D* is not spending the 2 million per month that they gave to Versus. Why should D* make an extra 2 million every month? I should get something from D*. Otherwise, D* can start dropping a bunch of 20 cent channels and earn an addition 2 million per month, or 24 million per year each without refunding the current subscribers anything. Is that fair to the subscribers?

    I still think they needs laws that say we need to be notified in writing at least 90 days in advance before D* drops a channel. Also, the terms of agreements should state that if D* drops a single channel, then my terms of service commitment is up on the effective date that the channel is dropped, so I can change service providers without penalties. An exemption would apply, of course, if a channel goes out of business and is not carried anywhere.

    When you used to make changes to your cell phone plan, they automatically extended your contract, but people complained to their representatives and, in Illinois and other states, they passed legislation that says you can make any changes you want without extended your commitment. Maybe they need to pass similar legislation for TV content providers.

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    RACJ2 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 2, 2008
    At least cable is required to give 30 days notice in the local newspaper. I think that should apply to satellite providers as well.
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    PCampbell Icon

    Nov 18, 2006
    irlspotter email Directv and they may give you a comp like Showtime, its worth a try.
  11. Sep 3, 2009 #791 of 5379

    JMII Legend

    Jan 19, 2008
    South Florida
    I would think the NHL & IRL would be going nuts over this. Both sports are struggling and now just had 1/3 of their viewers cut off. Something has got to give.

    The IRL drivers championship is very close with only two races to go. Lucky for me I'm going to the final race in Homestead (since I live in S FL), but for all the other fans of open wheeled racing in America they will only read about how the season finished. This would be like the NFL going off the air during the wild card round of the playoffs :nono2:
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    austen0316 AllStar

    Jun 21, 2006
    any word on us being able to watch the TSN feeds if we don't have versus by the time the season starts?
  13. Sep 3, 2009 #793 of 5379

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    With all the issues of today for our government to deal with, you have written both your senators and your congressional representative over Versus being dropped from Directv? :confused:

    Directv legally can change programming. http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P400042
  14. Sep 3, 2009 #794 of 5379

    billsharpe Hall Of Fame

    Jan 25, 2007
    Admittedly it's a one-sided contract. I suspect most cable companies have similar wording in their customer agreements, although you can generally cancel cable without incurring a penalty. At least that was the case the last time I did so a couple years back.

    I'm certainly not contacting Congress over a 20-cent a month price reduction. Congress has much more important things to worry about.
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    pbg Godfather

    Oct 11, 2007
    so are you implying you wouldn't be opposed to your bill going up every time a channel was added?

    I don't like losing it anymore than anyone else, but to me its nonsense for anyone to think they're owed something because it was taken down.

    Seems as if the larger issue between Comcast and DirecTV and Comcasts holdings needed to be addressed, and I think that's what may be starting to happen.
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    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Wouldn't that mean they have to put 30 days worth of ads in every newspaper in the country? I think putting up the scroller is good enough, those who watch it are notified.
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    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    Does you bill go up every time a new channel or HD feed is added? Be careful what you ask for. And honestly, do you think it's really that simple of a system? And since when does D* have a reputation for pulling channels left and right, and public disputes for that matter? You haven't even given this a chance to play out. But I'm all in favor of trying to put a stop to Comcast's unfair business practices.
  18. Sep 3, 2009 #798 of 5379

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007
    I remember years ago seeing threads like these about Dish and being happy they weren't my provider. Petty squabbles between companies better suited for Jerry Springer than corporate America.

    While I hardly think legislation is the answer (why I cut out that part of the post above) the profit for DirecTV is a pretty good point. If DirecTV feels they can "safely" drop what they deem "fringe" channels and subscribers won't flee (or even really do anything at all) that does seem like a pretty good profit model for any business, especially in this economy.

    I'm not claiming the above poster's numbers are spot on, but there is definitely a cost benefit to DirecTV by dropping the channel. While subscribers get less, DirecTV gets more; doubly so if they "replace" Versus with more pay-per-view.

    I have emailed DirecTV and posted to them via Twitter, but doubt that will help. For me, who doesn't like sports really anyway, it's not a big deal, but I realize it is for others. My husband, for instance, is very unhappy about missing Tour de France and, to be honest, Outdoor Life Network, Versus previous incarnation, was the one real gotcha' channel that helped convince him to go DBS approx. 12 years ago.

    We've always had the premium package, but over the years DirecTV has really declined in both quality and service. Failing to honor press release worthy promises like these (http://bit.ly/TraUz) really stinks. As does removing channels SHEVRA says I can have just because "they don't have to" provide them. (What makes it worse is that I got a two month run around where the answer changed every time I spoke to someone before ending up with that "na, na, boo, boo" response only because I exhaustively proving to them that I AM allowed to have those channels, by law AND by waiver. There answer to that one: Well, we don't want you to have them so we won't give them to you.)

    Then the prices keep going up (cable, for us, would be about 35 percent less, even at the highest package with their HD DVR rentals), the switch to "leased" equipment (for the same price point I was "buying" things for before), etc. Definitely makes me think I've come to the end of the line with DirecTV. Only sheer laziness is keeping me with them at this point ... Not wanting to re-wire or set-up new equipment or shell out the cash to do either. (We've got a LOT $$$ invested in our six HD DVRs and extended hard drives.)
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    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    what cable co are talking about most of them will bill you $96-$120 /m just for 6 HD dvrs and then you have add programing as well.
  20. Sep 3, 2009 #800 of 5379
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Don't count your chickens just yet. We're only in day 3 right now and the Tour de France doesn't air until next July some 10 months from now. There's still plenty of time to reach an agreement as I think both sides want to play .. they just can't seem to agree on the terms.

    I'm surprised Cable would be cheaper. I know it's at least $10/month for a DVR here with Comcast. I think it might even be more than that making 6 DVRs $60 - $75 right out of the gate. :eek: And that for a 15-hour DVR which is simply not enough storage capacity, IMHO.
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