Viacom Channel Takedown Information (Revisited)

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  1. Mar 5, 2004 #1 of 958
    James Long

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    From the archives (Original Post) - with a few corrections but no guarantee of accuracy ...
    Here is the list of channels that may be shut off:
    BET
    Nickelodeon /Nick At Night
    MTV
    MTV2
    NOGGIN
    TV Land
    VH1
    CMT
    Spike TV
    Comedy Central
    Flix
    The Movie Channel
    Sundance

    Please note that Showtime is not in danger of being removed.

    We may also lose the following CBS Stations in these cities:
    KEYE Austin, TX
    WJZ Baltimore, MD
    WBZ Boston, MA
    WBBM Chicago, IL
    KTVT Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
    KCNC Denver, CO
    WWJ Detroit, MI
    WFRV Green Bay, WI
    WCBS NewYork, NY
    WFOR Miami, FL
    KYW Philadelphia, PA
    KDKA Pittsburg, PA
    KUTV Saly Lake City, UT
    KPIX San Francisco, CA
    KCBS Los Angeles, CA

    We may lose the following UPN stations:
    WUPA - Atlanta
    WSBK - Boston
    WWHO - Columbus
    KTXA - Dallas
    WKBD - Detroit
    WNDY - Indianapolis
    WBFS - Miami
    WUPL - New Orleans
    WGNT - Norfolk
    KAUT - Oklahoma City
    WPSG - Philadelphia
    WNPA - Pittsburgh
    WLWC - Providence
    KMAX - Sacramento
    KBHK - San Francisco
    KSTW - Seattle
    WTOG - Tampa
    WTVX - West Palm Beach

    Misc stations:
    WJMN - Escanba, MI
    KCAL - Los Angeles, CA
    KUSG - Washington, UT​

    Just so we know what all the OTHER threads are talking about. :grin:
     
  2. Mar 6, 2004 #2 of 958
    amit5roy5

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    When you call DISH, they mention this. But they should let us tell DISH about what we think about this issue. The reason is because it can be possible that DISH is the causor and are blaming Viacom. Also, I wonder how DirecTV, Cox and Comcast renewed their contract. Oh well. I guess no Nickelodeon for my family. :(
     
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    homeskillet

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    How would you react to this if you were an advertiser on one of these Viacom channels? You've probably already paid for an ad, and to find out that 8 million people will not get to see it because of this (8 million enough people?)

    Would you think some Advertisers would pull out from Viacom and take their business to another channel where they know DISH would be viewing?
     
  4. Mar 6, 2004 #4 of 958
    music_beans

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    I am ready for the takedown of ViaCORN. Just watch turner instead.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2004 #5 of 958
    amit5roy5

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    I remember one Charlie Chat about him complaining that they had to uplink the "must carry" locals. I think the Echostar CEO cannot blame certain things to he and his company. I do not mind paying a few extra dollars for these channels.
     
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    homeskillet

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    Honestly... looking at the list I'm not going to miss any Viacom channels. They don't own any local stations in my area, and my distant CBS comes from Atlanta no biggies there. I will lose Denver CBS but oh-well. About the only other channel I watch sometimes is Comedy Central... will miss South Park but life goes on. Also, I watch UPN on WWOR in New York... no loss there either.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2004 #7 of 958
    amit5roy5

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    I can live, but the kids in my family will die without Nick. :) Also, I think another channel may also be in this list. It is "Nickelodeon GAS" may be removed, too. This channel is avalable in Ameica's Top 180 (was Top 150).
     
  8. Mar 6, 2004 #8 of 958
    amit5roy5

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    Just to tell you all, they posted it to the bottom-right of the dish network website, all the channels that are going to be removed.
     
  9. Mar 6, 2004 #9 of 958
    James Long

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    BET - Comedy Central - MTV - MTV2
    Nick Games & Sports
    Nickelodeon/Nick at Night (East and West)
    NOGGIN - VH1 - VH1 Classic​
    But that does NOT include the broadcast channels, which have had a slate waiting in the wings since December.

    JL
     
  10. Mar 6, 2004 #10 of 958
    jasonjpw

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    They should drop Nick Games and Sports and VH1 Classic. These stations suck.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2004 #11 of 958
    amit5roy5

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    They should add Nicktoons TV. We know a family with Comcast Digital Cable who has that channel. :)
     
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    jasonjpw

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    Yeah kids like cartoons not NICK GAS.
     
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    JohnH

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    Once again: Distant networks will not be affected by this "takedown". Distant Networks and Superstations are subject to a "Statutory License" and are not negotiable.

    You may notice one difference involving the Distant CBS stations from New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and Denver. The channel numbers may change by a couple of numbers. If anyone still has CBS Dallas-Fort Worth as a distant, there does not appear to be a plan to keep it up during the "takedown".

    Having said all this, there are likely to be some technical glitches. Don't get excited. Ride it out for a while and see what happens. The info card which would show up is still talking about the Utah Tax Repeal. Maybe a good sign. :)
     
  14. Mar 6, 2004 #14 of 958
    freakmonkey

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    AS far as DFW why is that going to be a problem if they can target receivers for a sports black out couldn't they handle it the same way and keep the distant net DFW receivers on?

    Also mentioned above people say they won't mind paying xtra to keep the viacom suite.

    I can't wait to see the E* bashing threads that will start when E* says rates are going up to cover the cost of keeping viacom.

    E* can't win. If they stand their ground viacom is gone. If viacom stays a rate increase is inevitable.
     
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    JohnH

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    It will be far more important to have an information slate up(not just a blackout) for the local DFW subscribers than to maintain the Distant. In the other 4 Distant O&O situations they have assigned a separate channel number for the Distant channel to be used in the event of a "takedown".
     
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    Nyte_eyes

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    Umm, I happen to love VH1 classic, the rest of the channels I could do without. :)
     
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    FTA Michael

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    Hey, I like VH1 Classic. They should only drop the channels that I don't like. :grin:
     
  18. Mar 6, 2004 #18 of 958
    Nick

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    I was thinking the same thing, freak. Charlie is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. Pesonally, I fully support his efforts to hold the line on rates. I'm sure he is amenable to a reasonable bump from Viacon, but he has to stand firm against those ESPN-style take it or leave it unjustified mega-increases.
     
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    Chris Blount

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    I've closed some of the other threads about the Viacom issue in hopes that we can confine most of the discussion to this thread. Thanks for your understanding.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2004 #20 of 958
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    Other Numbers I found
    Cbs-viacom Stations Group Los Angeles, Ca 90028 (323) 460-3000
    Viacom Productions Los Angeles, Ca 90024 (310) 234-5000
    Viacom Stations Group Los Angeles, Ca 90028 (323) 460-3000
    Viacom Station Sales Atlanta, Ga 30305 (404) 261-2227
    Viacom Mtv Networks Chicago, Il 60611 (312) 836-0668
    Viacom Inc New York, Ny 10036 (212) 258-6000
    Comedy Cental 323-956-5000

    E* Message
    Stations owned by Viacom have proposed excessive rate increases we feel are unreasonable. We always strive to control costs on behalf of our customers. We continue to work tirelessly to negotiate with Viacom so you do not lose your channels.

    If you desire to continue to receive your channels and would like to speak with the CEO of Viacom, Mel Karmazin, he can be reached this weekend at 212-956-1007 or during business hours at 212-975-6500.
     
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