Viacom Channel Takedown Information (Revisited)

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  1. Mar 9, 2004 #421 of 958
    maddawg

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    Not saying you are a slave to tv. My question, should everyone pay whatever increase is being asked? If you are willing to pay, then perhaps charlie should set a separate package for viacom channels.
     
  2. Mar 9, 2004 #422 of 958
    ZJedi01

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    Personally I dont care whose fault this is. In todays world if two grown adults running two corportations cant come to some sort of compromise for the better of both of their consumers then they deserve the end result. I don't care if Charile thinks he's helping me out buy not raising my rates by not paying the increase (which for those channels I would gladly pay my portion), I don't care if Viacom thinks its protecting its partners interest by letting a satelite company get a better deal than its other partners (direct, comcast) etc. Utlimately I want those channels. And now, ultimately, as a result of both their childish behaviors (phone number posting, scrolling messages, etc) I am seriously considering quitting dish and boycotting viacom channels. Neither deserves my business or my respect. The only loser in this deal is the consumer...not Charlie not Viacom they are both worth billions. I blame them both for being greedy self interested individuals...they are both worth billions whats the difference of a couple million dollars to make both of there customers happy who on average make whole 30000 - 80000 dollars a year. Both companies need to put things in perspective and realiz who is getting screwed here. Not them...us.
     
  3. Mar 9, 2004 #423 of 958
    catnap1972

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    And this is the bottom line why Viacom thinks they can get away with whatever they ask for.

    "Well we're obviously worth 10x what we're charging so why not get some more money...they'll bend over and pay it".

    Pretty soon, you'll have Turner and the mouse come calling "Hey, you gave THEM more money...how about us?!?!?"
     
  4. Mar 9, 2004 #424 of 958
    As a Dish customer since the beginning, I can live without all these odd ball stations that Viacom "wants" Charlie Ergin to carry.

    I do not watch and/ or interested in any programming that viacom carries!
    I do not have any kids & don't enjoy comedys...............

    The only station that i will miss { 50%} of the time is the local CBS feed which is KDKA in pittsburgh which carries THE PITTSBURGH STEALERS FOOTBALL.

    Other than that, i like NBC better for news.

    I support charlie ergin in his fight to keep prices down.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2004 #425 of 958
    Chebyrashka

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    This is a total ripoff, that's a lot of channels that I once had (and probably watched 50-85% of the time) taken off. The CBS feed alone I pay $1.50 for a month. Plus just 4 months ago my rates went up at least $10 a month for the extra receiver and PVR feeds.

    This is ridiculous.
     
  6. Mar 9, 2004 #426 of 958
    Chebyrashka

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    Another thing that was hilarious was last night when watching Comedy Central, Viacom had a banner running across the screen once or twice explaining that we might lose these channels.. I could read about 10 words and then E* promptly put a big black box up on the bottom half of the screen so I couldn't read it. Disturbing as well.
     
  7. Mar 9, 2004 #427 of 958
    TonyM

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    Theres no slates for CBS (at least mine)
    Turned to WCCO and saw Charlie and his speech about Viacom. He says to call the VP of this CBS (which shows the name of the VP of WCCO) and to call the advertisers, and a screen comes up with Cub & Rainbow (the big grocery chains), Target, Best Buy (which is HQ is Mpls) and HOM furniture.

    There will be a special chat at 7 eastern to discuss this "on this channel"..so its not going to be on 101..It will be on the CBS channel that is missing.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2004 #428 of 958
    TonyM

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    i saw it during WWE Raw...there's only one thing..I have ExpressVu and RAW is on TSN..
     
  9. Mar 9, 2004 #429 of 958
    greggg

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    Bigeye you probably live in a Sun City and vote down all school bond issues too. It is goofy to see all the people here saying "well I have no kids so this doesn't affect me". Oh yes it does. When Charlie loses a large amount of customers over this, when and if it becomes permanent, he will lose leverage with other carriers also. Watch your rates go up and PQ go down then. That's when the big for sale sign comes out. No comedies and a Steeler fan. You probably get your fill of yucks from Bill's boys. Crack open another Iron City premium beer.
     
  10. Mar 9, 2004 #430 of 958
    Swampthing

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    In the article link posted earlier on this website, FORBES gave an interesting and objective account of the real bottom line. There is no 40-percent rate increase as Charlie claims:


     
  11. Mar 9, 2004 #431 of 958
    scaredpoet

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    I didn't say that at all. I said if you're one of the people who find TV useless without the blocked channels, then you have a right to be angry at someone for it. WHo you choose to be angry at is your decision.

    Please don't put words in my mouth, I don't appreciate it.
     
  12. Mar 9, 2004 #432 of 958
    juan ellitinez

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    Try calculating the increase over the life of the contract
     
  13. Mar 9, 2004 #433 of 958
    hometheaterman

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    So since I already subscribe to top 120 I get I measly channel free that I didnt get before and loose several channels that I watched. Those channels free don't make me like the loss of nick and mtv2.
     
  14. Mar 9, 2004 #434 of 958
    JohnH

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    Yeah, it looks like all the speeches are up and running now.

    BTW: They all have different graphics for the particular market. Seems like the script Charlie is using is the same on all of them. I guess an assembly job for the production department with only one reading of the speech. :)
     
  15. Mar 9, 2004 #435 of 958
    David_A

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    Well it looks like I will be calling DirecTV today to order service from them. I really don't give a rats arse about Charlie or Viacom. Hell I really wouldn't care at all but I lost my local CBS and UPN. I PVR Enterprise every Saturday night because my wife doesn't like to watch it. She PVRs shows on MTV that she will miss tomorrow night. I got a letter in the mail last month stating that my package was chaning to AT120 and the price would be going up, but since I just signed a one year agreement the price increase wouldn't affect me. It's nice to know that they can change the channels that I paid for but I can't.
     
  16. Mar 9, 2004 #436 of 958
    Bob Trapp

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    I receive the Distant Networks package and still get CBS but I have lost CBSHD. I thought CBSHD was part of the Distant Networks.
     
  17. Mar 9, 2004 #437 of 958
    JohnH

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    We need a list of what UPN locals were actually pulled down. I guess somebody will have to scan the EPG for telltale signs. :)
     
  18. Mar 9, 2004 #438 of 958
    TonyM

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    CBS-HD is gone for the time being because if you live in an O&O CBS area, you could get CBS-HD.

    CBS distants are still up, just on different channels
     
  19. Mar 9, 2004 #439 of 958
    Slordak

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    This totally screws us in Chicago, with regards to being able to get CBS. In Chicago, CBS (Analog OTA) is on VHF Channel 2, and CBS-DT is on VHF Channel 3. Hence, because of the frequency, receiving this over the air requires the maximum size of antenna (i.e. not just a small indoor or attic UHF antenna) mounted on the roof. To make matters worse, the signal is actually at reduced strength in some directions to avoid interfering with other stations. People remember, even as kids, that CBS was always "the really snowy, hard to get station".

    The Chicago O&O CBS station, WBBM, claims a huge area is covered by its "Grade B" coverage, but realistically, you can't receive the station particularly well in much of the Chicago area.
     
  20. Mar 9, 2004 #440 of 958
    James Long

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    No station is that important. Get a grip. I'm not subscribing to Viacom Satellite with 126 more channels free. I'm subscribing to E*.

    As has been done several times. But trolls don't read math. They'd rather B&M over emotional troll comments instead of looking at the topic RATIONALLY.

    I believe you were disurbed BEFORE you saw the scroll/blackout.

    JL
    Looking forward to when the trolls get tired and we can get back to the topic FULL time.
     
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