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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by James Long, Mar 5, 2004.
11:59:59 PM Pacific Time Monday night... about five hours after the conclusion of the Charlie Chat.
Thanks! So Monday's shows are safe, which is very, very good for me. (breathes sigh of relief)
Hot off the wires... an interview with Charlie in the Denver Post with a significant portion covering the current CBS/Viacom dispute. This was from a luncheon.
I feel bad for CBS customers who would lose the network, but otherwise I say good riddance. Viacom is all crap anyway, and there are are much better uses for the bandwidth. I don't need 200 channels of drivel. 50 channels of quality would suit me just fine.
Ok I'll try this a 2nd time. If these channels go black monday night I better see the mtv/vh1 suite channels (and all of them) show up when the new contract is signed. I like those channels cause they're offered on my cable system.
$15 - Viacom Crap Pack
TMC XTRA WEST
$20 - Ammericas Top 60
$30 - Americas Top 120
$40 - Americas Top 180
$25 - Americas Top 60 + Locals
$35 - Americas Top 120 + Locals
$45 - Americas Top 180 + Locals
$28 - Americas Top 60 + Viacom
$38 - Americas Top 120 + Viacom
$48 - Americas Top 180 + Viacom
$33 - Americas Top 60 + Viacom + Locals
$43 - Americas Top 120 + Viacom + Locals
$53 - Americas Top 180 + Viacom + Locals
What do you think?
We should do this with every major provider
Viacom and Turner
From the excellent Denver Post interview that Mark linked to (http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~1999715,00.html):
"ERGEN: There is no way our company is going to rebroadcast a CBS station if the deadline expires and we don't have, in writing, an extension from them - because we know they'll sue us. They've already done so.
"It's up to CBS whether they want our customers to watch their signal. We've offered to pay the most we've paid anybody for a retransmission consent in our country for CBS. So we're not asking for it for free. But our customers are not asking for 10 or 11 or 12 channels they don't want to watch."
(I highly recommend that everyone here read the full interview, which covers a broad range of recent E* topics. Nuff said.)
I side with Charlie on this one not because he's trying to hold the line on prices (which only helps me as a shareholder), but because he's fighting the longstanding, ugly practice of tying new cable channels to OTA retransmission agreements. This is how the Fx Network got on a huge percentage of systems almost instantly -- Fox gave away local OTA Fox retransmission if carriers would add Fx. I think this practice stinks, and I figure Charlie's bringing the issue to a head to get some resolution.
I side with Charlie on this as well. And I agree with the above posts, the viacom package is mostly crap. There are a couple channels I will miss but not bad enough to pay for the rest.
Maybe we will get lucky and Dish will drop our rates when Viacom is gone. Although I really don't think those channels will be gone for long if at all.
Article from todays Denver Post - Ergan waiting out Viacom:
Let dish play it's mind games . Come over to directv . We have nicktoons . We carry nike-at nite . For $67 you can have HBO , Starz , Directv the guide . The only thing you lose is GAC . Compare channels today .
It is Monday Night at Midnight, Pacific Time, that's 3 o'clock Tuesday morning for you East coasters.
I think there will be a deal signed tomorrow (monday) and that Charlie will spout his $#!t that he stood up to big bad Viacom at the Chaz Chat Monday night.
all those deadlines..
and always at the end... last minute, etc - they always manage to figure something out and make a deal, or postpone the deadline...
I don't mean to sound like a 'n00b' but I want to clarify that D* is DirecTV and E* is Echostar which is Dish Network, right?
I finally saw the crawl. What a crock from both sides. Viacom for putting it on there and dish for putting the black bar.
Here's pictures of the scroll which people might miss due to the administrator's mad post locking sprees.
By the way, the links that the admins have been posting in a bunch of the locked Viacom topics, don't work. You click the link and it says no thread found.
Whatever the master thread is the topic should be changed to "THIS IS THE MASTER VIACOM THREAD" or something like that.
And, by the way ------> Welcome to DBSTalk!
I wouldn't be too surprised if the Charlie Chat gets postponed over this...
Ya think Chaz would run and hide instead of addressing is customers and let them know what is the situation with Viacom.