Viacom Channel Takedown Information

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Tasydra, Jan 7, 2004.

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  1. newsub

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    nothing on mtv yet. If we lose mtv,etc charlie better take back that rate increase scheduled for next month. I can only image the people calling echostar to complain tomorrow when they go to watch mtv,nick,vh1,etc and see the "this channel is temporarily unavailable because of contract disputes" messages.
     
  2. bar1203

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    Hey guys, he was right. the takedown was scheduled for tonight, but there is an extention until monday. so.... we'll see what happens then.
     
  3. Geronimo

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    It is after midnight ET I still have the VIACOM Channels
     
  4. TON

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    I've just found out that E* and Viacom inked another tempary agreement we will see if they can get it together by Monday now
     
  5. tonyquan

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    the extension is actually for one week (until the 14th), according to the Associated Press here:

    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/7657279.htm

    the article confirms that the current contract would have expired today.
     
  6. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Some of you need to take it easy when someone like Tasy posts. You never even gave him a chance and he was correct that the channels would have been taken down tonight.

    If you want information to flow here at DBSTalk, shooting the messenger won't help.
     
  7. Kevin

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    I apologize for my post questioning the credibility of the information Tasydra provided. I was shocked at the news, and the first thing that popped into my mind was "BS!"

    Thank you for providing this insider information to us, please keep it coming!!!
     
  8. FTA Michael

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    I'm conditionally impressed by that Miami Herald story, which adds that E* sued Viacom Wednesday for "illegally trying to force EchoStar to buy Viacom-owned MTV and other cable channels at unfair prices in exchange for the right to carry 18 CBS-owned stations in 15 big-city markets." That suit was put on hold while negotiations continue for another week.

    WTG Tasy. :)
     
  9. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    We need to get the first post in this thread restored. :( This is one moment that I wish someone would have quoted in full. As of now, the "insider information" is not available.

    JL
     
  10. tonyquan

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    It's likely Tasydra was trying to post the list of affected channels, judging by the kinds of reponses I see (call signs of certain CBS stations, etc) The list of all Viacom owned properties, including CBS and UPN affliates, is here:

    http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/viacom.asp

    As you can see, if the Viacom contract somehow did not get renewed, it would indeed have devastating impact, not only to locals, but some very popular networks.
     
  11. Sherlock

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    Maybe folks could be just a tad bit patient and not be so quick to judge.

    ...or maybe not.
     
  12. cdru

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    People were a bit harsh in their premature judgement to Tasy...but welcome to the internet. There are always trolls, flamers, and other itiots out there. I hope that Tasy doesn't leave for good just because people were saying it was untrue. If anything, he's probably laughing and chanting nana-nana-bobo stick your head in do-do at all the people who have egg on thier face.

    However...even Tasy isn't immune to jumping to conclusions and profusing that something won't happen...and then it does. See his post here.
     
  13. Randy_B

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    For the sat forum old timers, this thread reminds me of the intense crap that used to be heaped upon Young One whenever he/she posted insider rumors. Then there was the Dishplayer/WebTv programmer (Matt ?) that tried to communicate inside rumors and was personally trashed as well. So what if the info would have turned out be untrue. No harm, no foul. But I personnaly appreciate ALL inside rumors/memos. Even if they are not 100% accurate, they are always an interesting read.
     
  14. willy

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    Exactly. No one could wait 5-6 hours to see if it was true... and then bash. They just went off so they could say "Told you so".
     
  15. greggg

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    Here's the deal. Many newbies like myself do panic when they see this. But, and here is the big but, if this does turn out to be true, yes I will leave. I am an E*veteran for many years and remember when I first got it way back when my friend in LA called me an "eclectic" because E* was viewed as the niche intellectual satellite company. If they go back to that I am gone.
     
  16. BobMurdoch

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    Once again, the trolls line up to kill a good thing.

    His information turned out to be accurate in that there was a deadline that technically could have caused a switchoff of all the channels. Let's cut him some slack, let him post (according to Bill R he is risking a LOT being here), and take whatever we can get. I'm sure they will find a way to come to a deal as they BOTH need a deal to happen and can't afford to let an impasse occur.

    The Super Bowl is coming. Viacom needs the eyeballs to satisfy the advertisers (YOU explain to Budweiser why 10,000,000 potential viewers won't be watching) and E* needs the channels to avoid being at a HUGE competitive disadvantage against Rupert who is just waiting for an opportunity to spank Charlie as payback. Not to mention how the churn would slam his stock as well.
     
  17. gpflepsen

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    This satellite stuff is kind of like a fast food restaurant. If you just eat the food (or watch the TV) and not worry how it's prepared you will be more satisfied. Once you see behind the kitchen walls, your appetite may wane. Here we see the behind the scenes ugliness, don't let that taint your enjoyment of the DBS service.
     
  18. Nick

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    What a bunch of worrywarts! :rolleyes:

    Well, it's "tomorrow" where I live and I still have the Viacom channels.

    As is frequently the case, it seems that such "inside" information from low-level "insiders" is usually flawed, biased and typically incorrect. In an organization, rumors and misinformation are stock-in-trade among the troops and any astute management well knows to keep its intentions secret from the peonage.

    I also question "Tasydra's" motives in feeding this so-called "inside information" to us. An act of revenge, an attempt to gain his "15 minutes of fame" or a pathetic plea for attention from an audience predisposed to believe just about anything they hear?

    I am skeptical.
     
  19. greggg

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    Flepsen that's not bad. I have only posted for a short time but I have had E* for ages and never dealt with all the backroom stuff. All I knew was I paid my fee and watched. Now I am all bent out of shape about not getting the Superbowl, where if I wasn't posting I wouldn't have been the wiser and the show would have gone on in my house as usual. Good Post.
     
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