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VIP 222 question

Discussion in 'ViP211(411)/211K/222 Support Forum' started by VIP222, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. VIP222

    VIP222 Cool Member

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    I want the box to let the TV do the conversion of the signal. It will be connected via an HDMI cable to a Sony 46XBR2. Basically, what I'm saying is, is there an option on this box where the signal skips the box and lets the TV determine whether the channel is 480i or p, 720p, 1080i? Help would be appreciated.
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Not yet.
     
  3. VIP222

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    Any idea on when this option will become available?
     
  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    No announcement has been made ... other than last year when it seemed pretty close (for the other ViP models). "Native Pass Through" is one of those options that seems to have slipped to the back burner for the moment.
     
  5. VIP222

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    Ehh thats disappointing. Another question. Is there anyway to change the resolution I want for SD channels? I can find it for the HD channels but not the SD.
     
  6. James Long

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    The resolution is set based on the outputs, not the input signal. You can pick your favorite output resolution for the HD outputs (HDMI and component). The SD outputs will always be SD resolution (480i on composite, S-Video, RF).

    The 222 does remember the aspect ratios (stretched, letterbox, etc.) separately for HD and SD channels as a group ... in other words, if the last time you watched a HD channel you set it to gray bar the next time you choose a HD channel you get gray bars regardless of what you are selecting for SD channels.

    But changing the resolution of the output automatically based on the input resolution is not there yet - on any ViP receiver.
     
  7. VIP222

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    THanks a lot for responding. You really helped me with what I needed.
     
  8. VIP222

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    For some reasons my HD channels are not filling the whole screen but my SD channels are. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Right now my TV is connected temporarily by S-Video until Thursday. It will then be HDMI. Any suggestions as to why. When I go to the HDTV setup it asks for Analog Type and the options are HRC, IRC, Cable, and Off-Aire. Which one should I choose?
     
  9. James Long

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    Which part of the screen is it not covering? Top and bottom?

    That would be letterboxing. The SD outputs on the 222 (and 211) expect you to have a 4x3 TV connected so they put out 4x3 SD as "full screen" and give you the choice of "zoom" (cropped) or "letterbox" if you are watching a 16x9 HD channel.

    Use the component connections if you can and you'll get HD on your monitor.

    The "Analog Type" is for the tuner and does not affect any output.
    The HDTV output options only affect component and HDMI outputs, not the SD outputs (S-video/Composite/RF).
     
  10. VIP222

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    ^Yes it is top and bottom. So when I get the HDMI and component connections going will HD be full screen? It is not really a problem or anything just wondering. I am very new to all of this lol.
     
  11. Ron Barry

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    Yes when the HD is delivered in 16x9 format. The thing you need to realize is not all HD comes out the same way. In some case you get 4x3 format with black bars on the side and other times you get 4x3 formate with logos on the side and other times you get the full 16x9 picture. Also some channels will stretch 4x3 to 16x9. TNT HD does this from time to time. It is content based and varies widely across the HD channel spectrum.

    I would suggest given Jason's 222 review at the top a read. Hopefully it will be helpful.
     
  12. VIP222

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    Alright thanks, one last question. Once I get the cables will the SD channel format vary as well?
     
  13. James Long

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    SD will stay the same on a ViP 222 or 211.
    The SD outputs are 4x3 and you have a choice of zoom or letterbox.
     
  14. VIP222

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    Alright thank you for answering my questions. Really helped me out.
     
  15. VIP222

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    Sorry one more question. I'm using S-Video cables to connect my box to my TV. Does this mean the HD channels I am seeing really arent HD?
     
  16. Ron Barry

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    Yep. You need to be connected via component or HDMI to see HD. You are seeing downcasted versions of your HD channels. Get ready for a big WOW.
     
  17. VIP222

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    I can't tell me how happy you just made me lol. Thanks!
     
  18. VIP222

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    Alright I got my HDMI cable in and it looks amazing like you said it would. Now, what should I select for analog type on HDTV output menu? HRC, IRC, Cable, Off-Air?
     
  19. James Long

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    Unless you have some sort of cable subscription connected just set it to Off-Air.
     
  20. VIP222

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    Whenever it rains my picture goes for some reason but everything else still comes up. So if I change the channel the bar on the top shows me what I am changing too and if I press info the info comes up but not the picture. You can also hear the audio. Anyone know why?
     
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