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VIP 612 and hopper

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by bobmn1967, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. tampa8

    tampa8 Godfather/Supporter

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    To be fair to the posters here, your question as to it being a major downgrade from a Hopper to a VIP receiver is something just going to the DISH site would tell you. A WORLD of difference. Bottom line, there are reasons DISH is not allowing a mix, (Other than a VIP 211) and it does not really matter if people agree with it or not. I do not think an installer will install it in your home with a Hopper system however, as the reason allowing it is for people who have RV's etc.... so they do not need to have a second account. I suppose if you pay extra the installer might install it in the home.

    But honestly, since you do not know the difference between what a Hopper does and a VIP receiver, I don't think you should decide on anything yet till you learn more easily done by reading the threads here.
     
  2. Mike.H_DISHNetwork

    Mike.H_DISHNetwork DISH Representative DISH Representative

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    [SIZE=medium]AzAssassin, [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium]If you have any DISH questions please let me know and I am happy to help you![/SIZE]
    [SIZE=medium]Thanks [/SIZE]
     
  3. Jim5506

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    AzAssassin, have you considered a ViP211k with an EHD for recording (turns it into a DVR after a $40 activation fee)?

    The 211K has an S-Video out port.

    Buy a 211k, get it put on your account for your "RV" and connect it to the third output of your dish (no co-connection with the Hopper side of the cabling) and you are up and running.
     
  4. AzAssassin

    AzAssassin New Member

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    Hey, thank you very much for the suggestion and for the information/advice on how to get a ViP211K to work with my current setup. I had read about/been given suggestions to research the ViP211k Receiver as a potential option, but I wasn't sure how I could use it along with the Hopper and my current DISH setup. So, I really appreciate you giving me a simple and clear explanation as to how it can be connected to my satellite dish.

    I just checked again and there is still a ViP211K Receiver listed on my local Craigslist for $60. So, I'm curious: 1.) Is $60 a good price for this unit? 2.) As long as the Receiver is not listed as stolen, and is not linked to an account with a past due balance, should I be able to just buy it and then call DISH and have it activated on my account? And, 3.) Is it really as simple as getting myself a ViP211K and then connecting it to the 3rd output on my satellite dish?

    Also, I have to ask, being that I have a DISH Network satellite dish that is new enough/compatible with a Hopper HD-DVR, does it definitely have a 3rd output on it? Or is it possible that there will not be an available port on my dish to be able to use for a ViP211K?

    I hope I am not being annoying by asking so many questions. I apologize, if I am. And please know that I sincerely appreciate the helpful replies!


    Edit: I just checked eBay and there is a seller (with 2,412 Feedback and 99.4% Positive) with 8 Brand New ViP211K Receivers in original boxes with a Buy It Now price of $79.95. There is also a used ViP211K Receiver that includes a 1TB Expander, that has no bids on it so far and only has 13 hours left, with a starting bid of $110 and Free Shipping (and a Buy It Now of $160).
     
  5. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    get R00xxxx number from a seller, call dish and ask if it's OK to activate it on your account, BEFORE BIDDING !
     
  6. John79605

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    AzAssassin, a 211k doesn't have anamorphic output, so you might be disappointed with it. The 222k hasn't been mentioned but it does have anamorphic out and no s-video. I record the anamorphic 16x9 on my DVD recorder and I understand why you would want that.
     
  7. AzAssassin

    AzAssassin New Member

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    Hey, thanks for the information. You are sure that the ViP211K does NOT send a 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic video image through the S-Video Output? Because that is literally the only reason I would want to get that receiver. So, if this is true, the ViP211K would no longer be an option for what I am looking for.

    As for the 222K, it DOES send a 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic video image, but, it does NOT have an S-Video Output? If that is the case, then this receiver would not be an option for me, either.

    I already have a Hopper, which does send a 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic video image through its outputs (all of them I believe), but it doesn't have an S-Video Output, which is why I am on here asking for helpful advice and information about potential options.

    Basically, I am trying to figure out a way to get the best-quality 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic video signal possible from my DISH Network service to my Panasonic DVD Recorder (which only has Composite and S-Video INPUTS). I can currently do this with my Hopper, but only through the Composite Video Output, and the video-quality is not as nice and clear as I had hoped/thought it would be. So, I am thinking and hoping that the video quality will be better, if I am able to get the signal to my DVD Recorder with an S-Video cable. Being that the Hopper (for some reason) does not have an S-Video Output, I am trying to find a way to accomplish this.

    The Hopper does have a Component Video Output (which has much better quality than the Composite Output), but (as is the case with almost all DVD Recorders), my Panasonic DMR-EA18 does NOT have a Component Video INPUT. So, right now, it seems as though I have just got to try to find a way to utilize the S-Video INPUT on my Panasonic DVD recorder and hope that the video quality is better than it is with the Composite. I have thought about getting a Component-to-S-Video Converter, but based on reviews and comments I've read about them, they typically seem to reduce the video quality during the converting process. So, that does not seem to be a satisfying option.

    As usual, I'm sorry for writing so much. If anyone has any other ideas/suggestions/advice, please know it will be appreciated!
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    all outputs of all dish devices described at dish official site - take a look there
     
  9. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    One could also simply connect an appropriate USB drive to their Hopper to keep their collection of programming. Watch it any time you want as long as you keep DISH Network service. That is the design of the service.
     
  10. AzAssassin

    AzAssassin New Member

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    Thank you for replying with the helpful suggestion and the information. I really appreciate it.


    Could you please elaborate more on what you are referring to in this post? If I were to get an appropriate USB drive, how exactly would it enable me to keep some of my Hopper recordings on it and the files be viewable via the USB drive? If I am understanding this correctly, and it is possible to transfer/store recordings from the Hopper onto a USB flash drive, could I then transfer/copy these Hopper recording files from the USB drive over to my computer's hard drive and then be able to author the files with a DVD Authoring program? Assuming that the saved/copied files are actually accessible and compatible with the authoring program, that is.


    I have posted about this on other forums and it has been suggested that I consider getting some version of Hauppauge HD PVR Recorder; specifically, the Hauppauge HD PVR Rocket, which can apparently record HD programming and save it to a USB Flash Drive, which enables you to then copy/move the files over to your computer and then author them with the appropriate software. Can anyone comment on any of these Hauppauge HD PVR Recorders? Apparently, the Hauppauge Rocket is not set to be widely released until Dec. 1st, and it has a MSRP or around $160-$180. I was not anticipating spending that much money to be able to start recording/creating 16:9 Widescreen Anamorphic HD-Source DVDs, but it seems as though this device may be worth the money.

    I just checked and there are a few Hauppauge HD PVR Recorders listed on the local Craigslist (specifically, the HD PVR, HD PVR 2 and an HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition) for around $65-$100. None of these devices have the option to save/transfer recorded video files to a USB Flash Drive; but they do have a USB plug port (for a USB cable like a printer uses). So, I am wondering if might be able to use a USB cord to transfer recorded files from the HD PVR or HD PVR 2 to my computer's hard drive? If someone could comment on this, I would really appreciate it!
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    a few ppl posted before on the site what model of Hauppauge card is good for archiving DVR's content onto PC (you could use Search window on top of each page here)
     
  12. John79605

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    The USB port on a Hauppauge is for recording on a PC. You won't have to transfer recordings to the hard drive; they get recorded there. The Hauppauge DVR converts the HD signal from your receiver to AVCHD and the supplied software records it. (Oversimplified, I'm sure.) The supplied software lets you edit the recordings. You have the option of burning AVCHD recordings onto DVDs. The AVCHD DVDs will play in most blu-ray players. You would be very pleased with the HD recordings. I didn't even think to mention Hauppauge since you were focused on s-video and anamorphic SD.
     
  13. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    DISH allows people to connect external hard drives to the Hopper to expand the storage space on the Hopper. That is what I was referring to. Not a third party hacked receiver but DISH's way of providing additional storage.
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    it was (and you could catch it rarely today) absolutely best device: R5000-HD board; it could save MPEG stream as-is, worked with many dish, DVT and cable's boxes
     

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