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VIP 612 DVR question.

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by jaytin, May 8, 2009.

  1. jaytin

    jaytin Mentor

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    I trying to set up switch dp34. Signal from three sats 119,129,118.
    After installing the switch do I need use a spliter to feed both (sat1-sat2)input at back the rec ?? Or I should use just one side of the tuner. (SAT1) only ??? Why rec have two tuner SAT1 and SAT 2 on the back side of the rec.I only have one rec in my apartment
    Thanks.
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Each tuner needs either a unique feed from the satellites OR if you are using DishPro Plus you can use a DPP Separator to "split" the feeds.

    Mixed results for people who have tried to use only with 1 Tuner feed... but suffice to say even if you could do it, you'd not get the full benefit of the 2-SAT-tuners in the receiver.

    Also, if you are only seeing 119/118/129 then you are going to be missing lots of channels (including some HD) from the 110 location.
     
  3. jaytin

    jaytin Mentor

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    Stewart Thanks.
    I just bought dp34,cuz dp44 or 64 is very expensive.
    what sat has more or less HD ?
    I read some where that using both tuner will useful to record and watch two different channel. In this case I need a spliter between dp34 and the DVR right ?
     
  4. BobaBird

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    You can NOT use a splitter to feed another tuner.

    Using the DP34, you will have to have 2 runs of RG6 from 2 output on the switch to the 2 tuner inputs. If you can't put in a second line, you can use the DPP33 switch instead, along with the DPP Separator behind the receiver. The Separator can't be used with the DP34 because the DP34 isn't a Plus switch.
     
  5. BattleZone

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    First, you mentioned 118. Did you really mean 118, or did you instead mean 110? 118(.7) is for Internationals, and you need a DPP44 switch to get HD and Internationals, because you will need to see 4 orbital locations (110/118.7/119/129). With a DPP44, you can run a single line to a DPP Separator and feed both tuners.

    If you really meant 110/119/129 on your DP34, then you must run 2 lines from your switch, one to each tuner on the 612. It won't work correctly with just one line, and you can't use a separator on the non-Plus DP34 switch.
     
  6. jaytin

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    I mean 118 for sure.

    Can't I get enough HD only choosing two sat. These two sats must be between 11o or 119 or 129 ?
     
  7. phrelin

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    "Enough" is a judgement call, but my answer would be "No".

    Depending on where you live in California, your HD locals might be on 110°, 119° or 129° while your SD locals may be on 110° or 119. Regarding cable HD, for example TNT HD is on 110° while it's sister station TBS HD is on 129°. Premiums are similar, for example HBO HD is on 110° while the rest of its HD sisters are on 129°.

    In the "Western Arc" you need 110°, 119° and 129°. If you need internationals, you also need 118°. And that is an entirely different setup than most California customers use.
     
  8. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    If you absolutely need 118.7, then you get 199 by default since the LNB required for Dish's 118.7 is a dual-band LNB that gets both...

    You can choose, for the most part, to get either 129 or 61.5 for most of the HD. But, some locals are on one location but not the other and some RSNs are similarly on one but not the other.

    Lastly, the 110 location has a handful of HD as well including some of the good ones.

    Also, I could be wrong, but I don't know if Dish will activate you unless you can see all the locations required for a particular package. I seem to remember this being a problem, because IF they did allow you to activate without seeing (for example 110) then they open the door for you to complain "I'm not getting all that I'm paying for" and they don't want to open that door.

    Others beat me to addressing the issue with your DP34 switch. As mentioned, you'll need either a DPP33 or DPP44 to do what you want... and really you need the DPP44 because you really need 110/118/119/129 if you need the 118.7 location.

    FYI, this would be much cheaper if you signed up with Dish and let them install everything.. because things like those expensive switches would be included with the install price.
     

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