VIP211Z receiver with 1000.2 LNB

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  1. Pattebri95

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    I'm new to this site and looking for some help/suggestions. I purchased an extra dish and 1000.2 LNB to be used at a hunting camp for a couple of weeks per year. I take a receiver from the house (VIP211Z) to use during the times I'm there. For some reason, I can pick up 110 or 119 separately, but never together, and I can't get 129 at all. I've adjusted that dish multiple times, but maybe there's another option I'm missing and need to try? Any suggestions?
     
  2. tylorert

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    Do you have somthing like a DP33 or DP44
     
  3. RBA

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    What dish did you pick up, a dish 500? A dish 1000.2? A dish 1000.4? Is the 1000.2 LNB an Eastern Arc or a Western Arc? Do you have a clear view to South Southwest?
     
  4. Pattebri95

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    I don't have either. I had somebody tell me today to try the 44
     
  5. Pattebri95

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    the actual dish itself says "Dish HD" on the face. Beyond that, I don't know anything about the actual dish. My brother obtained it from somewhere. The 1000.2 LNB is a western arc. I've got fairly good clearance to the SSW. Signal strength in the 50's-60's. It will flip back and forth from being locked on 110 and 119.
     
  6. tylorert

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    I would try a DP33 or DP44, When I set up mine it was required to get everything. My advice: Try it
     
  7. Pattebri95

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    I will try it. Thanks. I'm far from a satellite TV install expert, but just wanted to be able to watch football while there. I've got one coax cable running from the LNB to the receiver and wondered if I needed something different there.
     
  8. scooper

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    If you have a 1000.2 WA dish/LNB , your 211 should be able to see 129,119 and 110 satellite slots (this will also get you HD).

    If you have a 1000.2 EA LNB - then you need to point at the south EAST to get 61.5 and 72.7

    Use www.dishpointer.com to get your pointing settings.
     
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  9. Troch2002

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    You seriously don't need a DPP44 or 33 for a single Receiver if you have a Western arc 1000.2 dish.
    The LNB has a built in multiswitch.
    Which is exactly the same as having a DPP44 , except the WA Triple LNB has 1 less output.
    Thats it.

    Sounds to me like you either have Line of site issues, a bad LNB.
    First thing to do it as mentioned was go to dish pointer website, type your location, and get your settings.
    Level your dish, and you should have a satellite meter.
    Worst case, cover the 110, and 129 with Foil, and try to peak the 119 if you don't have a meter, or cant get one.

    Then after the 119 is peaked, remove foil and run a Check switch.
    If you still aren't getting all three, than you probably need to cut some trees down, or Buy a decent meter.

    A DPP44 is for outputting 4 receivers, and/or importing 4 seperate orbital locations.
    Its not going to do you any good, if you don't have a proper peaked dish anyway.

    And a DPP33, is Not compatible with a DPP LNBS.
    DPP33 are allowed with Dish Pro lnbs only like DP Single and DP Twin only.
    DPP 33 can only be used if you have it stacked with a DPP44 if using an EA or WA 1.2k or 1.4 k lnb when installing a 3rd Hopper
    And even then its not really recommended .
     
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  10. scooper

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    I don't know about a Dish Pro TWIN - but the DPP33 switch will work with a DishPro DUAL (only need to use 1 output) I do know that the DPP33 will NOT work with a DishProPLUS LNB of any kind.

    Single - the LNB will receive 1 slot, one output
    DUAL - 1 slot , 2 outputs
    TWIN - 2 slots, builtin switch, 2 outputs
    DishPro Plus TWIN - 2 outputs, 2 slots, builtin switch , PLUS a single INPUT

    The 1000.2 and 1000.4 LNBs are DishProPlus models, so they don't work with the DPP33. However, they will work with a DPP44 switch.
     
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  11. tylorert

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    With me I needed it for 1 reciever on a 1000.4
     
  12. Troch2002

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    Then sorry to say, you clearly had no idea what you were doing.
    Sorry to be so Blunt.

    But 1000.4 are Dish Pro Plus Technology.
    They output 3 Vip receivers from 61.5, 72, 77 on Eastern arc.
    They will also provide the same service to 2 -Hopper 1s or 2s.
    Without a Separate switch needed.
     
  13. tylorert

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    Hmmmm??? Oh yeah! Thought so! ;)
     

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  14. Troch2002

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    Still clueless....

    Thats just there for you if you only need to use certain orbital locations.
    All 3 are available from each port simultaneously.
    Thats what Dish Pro Plus technology is .
    Example
    If you have a VIP you can use any of the 3 outputs and it will give you 61.5,72.5,77 through only a single cable.

    If you need say only the 61.5, Your picture shows you what port is required to obtain the 61.5 from that LNB, like if you need a wing dish.

    Thats because once you hook up a DPP44, that 1.4k LNB is now disabled from providing the ability to send 3 orbital locations though a single coax.
    Vip dual, needs a Separator, Hopper with Joey require nodes.

    Now instead of playing picture book, Go read up on DPP technology.
     
  15. tylorert

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    Right but when i had one wire to the receiver it only piked up 61.5 ONLY then with no tweaking it but change of port it picked up 72. HMMMMMMM On a 922! Could mine just be old tech?
     
  16. Troch2002

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    Did you have a Separator?
    [​IMG]
     
  17. tylorert

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    Yes (triplexer?)
     
  18. tylorert

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    Please PM me
     
  19. Troch2002

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    Then you had something wrong with your LNB, wiring or Tripleplexer.
    Because I assure you
    DPP44 Multiswitches are not required for 3 or less Vip receivers.
    2 or Less Hoppers.

    You can argue until you are blue in the face.
    But thats facts.
     
  20. tylorert

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    Heres how I had mine setup: Satellie in all ports to>DP44>1 out to PI and to>triplexer>ViP922
     

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