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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by pjm877, May 5, 2006.

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  1. May 5, 2006 #1 of 36
    pjm877

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    I got an e-mail that stated the 622 as of May 3 had a price drop.. now $499.

    anyone else see this? why? newer units soon to be released.. maybe with HDMI 1.3?? bigger hda's (the 750's are out).. pressure from the TIVO Ser. 3 due out 4th qtr.. due to law suite loss????

    later
     
  2. May 5, 2006 #2 of 36
    Grandude

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    Yes, looks good. Glad I have waited. Now can keep my 921 and buy the 622 but I'm still waiting for the SF locals to go HD from Dish.
    Brian
     
  3. May 5, 2006 #3 of 36
    Rodney

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    How will this impact the 921/942 trade in program?
     
  4. May 5, 2006 #4 of 36
    Rogueone

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    dang, that's a drastic drop, and a little quick. I wonder how those who've paid 650-700 will feel with this change only being a couple months after release. I'd have figured 6 months at a minimum. makes ya say hmmm.....
     
  5. May 5, 2006 #5 of 36
    Stewart Vernon

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    It really is goofy.

    If Dish was out to "stick it" to customers as a lot of people think... then I would imagine Dish would have been trying to kick these out the door since Feb as fast as they could take orders rather than putting people off for 1-2 months.

    They could have really raked people over on this IF that was their motivation. The fact that they would drop the purchase price by $200 within a few months when they are still backlogged on orders... tends to make you think they aren't just out to make the quick buck on these.

    It also gives additional meaning to the ever-cryptic "good things come to those who wait" message we've seen on the Chats.
     
  6. May 5, 2006 #6 of 36
    markyd21

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    I dont wanna say who cares what they think, but isn't this the historical trend with technology? Regardless of how long it takes to drop. It will always happen.
     
  7. May 5, 2006 #7 of 36
    markyd21

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    Whats more is how it affects retailers. Retailers who purchase the 622 at the old price only have a certain period of time to use these before they are reimbursed the new price. Meaning if a retailer holds on to one of these too long and then uses it, they will lose the difference in the price.
     
  8. May 6, 2006 #8 of 36
    pjm877

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    this is true, but there are deciding factors that effect price. there are too much of a product, too little of a product, the product is due to be replaced with an updated model... "year end close out"

    now my question is which one applies here? Mfg are not inclined to reduce the price on a hot seller... like the Toyota Prius!
     
  9. May 6, 2006 #9 of 36
    TomH

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    I think this is more of the fact that early adapters always pay for the R&D costs. Once that's covered the manufacturer drops the price down to "normal" levels and everyone else can get in.
     
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    I thought so too. So when I ordered and the install date was given as just a week out - I asked them to postpone the install assuming I won't be getting the dvr within a week.

    But I got 622 within a week of ordering - so the backlog may be over - with all the regulars having got their upgrades. Now my 622 is sitting in the box waiting for the install which is still couple of weeks away.
     
  11. Chandu

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    nataraj,

    Did you order a leased 622 or purchased one?

    I'm exactly in the same situation as you, with a leased 622 sitting here waiting for install. Due to the reduced purchase price, I'm having double thoughts about whether I should return it and adjust the install date for my own purchased 622.

    In fact, I posted a bunch of questions about what could be the advantages of purchase over lease in another thread, which nobody responded to. Let me go bump up that thread.
     
  12. kstevens

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    Even with the reduced price, you are still saving 400 bucks. It would take a long time to recover that cost and with E* changing policy on older receivers, it may be harder to sell a used one than before. I prefer the lease and if technology changes, I 'll be able to trade it in for a new model later, hopefully under a similar deal they are offering today.

    ken
     
  13. ssmith10pn

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    I'm not a math guru but this is pretty easy to calculate.

    299.00 upgrade fee.
    18 month contract extension. 6.00 DVR fee x 18 = 108.00

    407.00 + 5.00 lease x 18 = 497.00

    And you can buy one for xxx dollars?

    Sounds like buying one is looking better and better.
     
  14. James Long

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    Even if you own it, you will pay the DVR fee. The monthly costs are the same whether you own or lease (except those have a 622 and no other receiver who are paying the $6 lease fee).

    $499 is better that $699 for a purchase price. Cue all those who bought early - it's time to complain. :)
     
  15. Rogueone

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    you can't count the dvr fee, that is there regardless. and if someone is getting the $200 rebate, then it's only 99 + 5x18 or 189 not 487. For someone with the 299 price, it would be 389 not 487. so about 32 months would be break even, if all other costs were the same.

    but i would say the big differnce in owning and renting is, if a rented box breaks, Dish has to replace or repair it. If an owned box breaks, you are buying another one.
     
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    Well I paid $299 and that extra $200 will pay for 33 months of rental at $6 per month. I'm not happy either as in 33 months I will still be renting something I could have owned. I knew this would happen but not in 2 months :(

    -JB
     
  17. Chandu

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    Why not disconnect after 18 months after the commitment is over (I'm assuming you signed up for one), and play poker with DISH for whatever deal maybe going on at that time? Or even sign up for FIOS if that happens to be the better deal at that time?

    I've been thinking about this a lot for the last day. As long as I have the discipline to change service after 18 months (or renegotiate with DISH), I'll come ahead with a lease. I think I'll just go ahead with it.

    Now, if they were to reduce the $299 lease price after I sign up, I'll be truly mad. :mad:
     
  18. johnnyd1023

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    I believe that after the warranty runs out on a lease, you are responsible for repairs. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
    As far as a buying another one, I have the insurance, I am covered.
     
  19. motts

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    People here are talking about purchasing the box as opposed to leasing it. I thought that even if you purchase it you still don't own it. I understand that this wasn't the case with previous receivers. So, why would anyone purchase something they can't resell? Where is the cost benefit?
     
  20. Chandu

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    :confused:

    I'm sorry, you lost me there.
     
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