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VIP722K, 2 TVs diff parts home, way to get HD to both TVs? TVEverywhere? Sling Extndr

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by WynsWrld98, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. TulsaOK

    TulsaOK New Member

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    Add an external hard drive, pay $40 activation fee and the 211k is a DVR. I believe the DVR firmware resides on the EHD, so it will not function on a 622, 722, 722k or 922.
     
  2. jaymz

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    I have a 622, and I run my component outs on it to the little 26" HDTV I have in the kitchen. I run the HDMI out to the 47" LG in the living room. 622 is set to single, and you gotta watch the same program on both sets, but it works fine. When someone is downstairs watching the Sony, I switch the 622 to "2" and then can watch different channels (via diplexer) off the component inputs.

    Jim
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Nope. See the thread http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2659261&postcount=9
     
  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Jimmy, OP dd ask "to get HD on both TVs" - different channels actually. Perhaps you're not aware while using small (26" HDTV set) - TV2 is SD only.
     
  5. WynsWrld98

    WynsWrld98 AllStar

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    P Smith is correct -- I cannot imagine what I'm asking for isn't something a lot of other people would like to have. Frankly even if I was willing to pay the lease acquisition fee (or buy) a VIP722K for my second TV and pay the corresponding monthly fees I wouldn't like the inconvenience of managing programming on both DVRs, to delete things off of DVR #1 that I watched on DVR #2 and delete things off DVR #2 that I watched on DVR #1, I want the flexibility to watch recording programming off of the DVR on either TV (in HD ofcourse).
     
  6. SaltiDawg

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    While I also would like to see the capability to view the content of either DVR at any location in HD, I don't understand your problem as described here. We have two DVRs and the only time the same show is recorded on both DVRs is when we plan to view that offering at different locations for whatever reason.
     
  7. WynsWrld98

    WynsWrld98 AllStar

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    I want the flexibility to watch all programming I'm interested in on either TV. I don't want to have to choose which programs I record on which DVR. For example having to choose to record/watch American Idol on DVR/TV in bedroom, record/watch Modern Family on living room DVR/TV makes no sense to me, I want flexibility to watch recorded American Idol and Modern Family on either TV. In addition to the inconveniences of having two DVRs it's expensive due to upfront "lease acquisition fee" (or whatever B.S. they call it) and additional DVR monthly fees due to having two DVRs, all very expensive. From my understanding DirecTV has the type of setup I'm after but I love my VIP722K DVR and really don't want to go back to DirecTV.

    No one has responded to my question about VIP922 when someone stated it's impossible to get what I'm after with a VIP722K (meaning using Sling Catcher/Multiroom Extender when or if it ever comes out) but didn't say same about VIP922, left it ambiguous.
     
  8. coolman302003

    coolman302003 2014 NBA CHAMPIONS!

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    With the 922 it also sends live TV/recorded programs to TV2 in SD only, so no HD on 2nd TV. You can however watch live tv/recorded programs in near HD quality on a PC/Mac through Sling using the TV2 tuner.
     
  9. SaltiDawg

    SaltiDawg Active Member

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    Not new stuff deleted.

    I commented on your saying, "... I wouldn't like the inconvenience of managing programming on both DVRs, to delete things off of DVR #1 that I watched on DVR #2 and delete things off DVR #2 that I watched on DVR #1, ..."

    While I agree that what you want generally would be great, I said i didn't understand what I quoted from you... and I explained why.

    You ignored the issue and just repeated back what you said originally. lol :rolleyes:
     
  10. jaymz

    jaymz Cool Member

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    Yes, I am. TV used for "2" if non-HDTV. Seldom use it. My point was that both component and HDMI outs are active on "1" and picture is great (are component outs HD? Don't recall). Granted. you have to be watching the same channel, but I'm just saying....

    Jim
     
  11. BattleZone

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    As I stated earlier, if you have:

    - 922, or
    - 722k with HD Sling Adapter

    AND once the Multi-Room Extender is released, you could use the MRE to "catch" Slung content from the TV2/Sling output of either receiver. Without the MRE, HD from TV2 isn't possible on a TV (without using a PC hooked to the TV, and using the TV as the PC's display).
     
  12. WynsWrld98

    WynsWrld98 AllStar

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    I guess one thing I wasn't thinking about with this Sling setup even if MRE ever released is the source is re-encoded by Sling which will not make it look anywhere near the original image so this would still mean an "HD" image that is very compressed, right? When I watch in 1920 x 540 mode on my local network slung to my PC in my house using N networking the image is watchable but nowhere near HD quality so if this is what I'd get slung to my second TV that really isn't going to be such a great thing. I think I'm going to have to explore moving to DirecTV and see if there are any gotchas going with what they have.
     
  13. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget that if you have any friends with DirecTV get a referral from them, which nets both of you $100 credit ($10/month for 10 months) and for you that's on top of their best current offer. Just make sure that you follow the procedure for get the referral credit to the letter else they'll probably reject it.
     
  14. lbhskier37

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    I am in the same boat with WynsWrld98 on this. I always was happy with Dish, I loved my 622 DVR, but if they can't offer REAL HD multiroom DVR anytime soon I will be forced to switch. This capability is now possible with all of Dish's competitors (I don't count cable as nothing would get back to switch back to cable). Its not like we are asking for anything exotic here, it is the same capability Dish has had for years with their Duo DVRs with the exception of HD over TV2.

    My 622 died last week and I am not very happy about having to wait until Monday to get a replacement since the Rose Bowl is not on regular TV this year. Once my replacement 622 comes in I will have a decision to make in the next few months. Do I re-up my contact to get a 722k and hope that someday soon they will offer a multiroom DVR, or do I just bite the bullet and switch to Direct TV.

    I have been watching the forums here for over a year hoping to see some hint of a real multiroom DVR solution from dish and I am losing hope, so maybe they will be losing a customer.
     
  15. WynsWrld98

    WynsWrld98 AllStar

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    lbhskier37: I was at CES when Dish demoed the VIP922 and the demo looked pretty full featured (not just a box with nothing inside), they were demoing the search capabilities and all kinds of things then if I'm recalling correctly it was over a year until it was officially released so there was a HUGE lag from the demo to the official release. Considering I haven't even heard of a VIP922 replacement with real HD multiroom capability I have to believe if it's even in the planning stages it would be yearS until we ever saw it. I love my VIP722K and have a lot of cool things on an external hard drive attached to it I'd hate to loose but I really want to be able to play REAL HD from my DVR on multiple TVs (different recorded program to each TV).
     
  16. JerryEl

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    ...to get HDTV to multiple TV's if you want to invest some $$$$. I ran HDMI cables to each BR from my living room. In my case the total length of the cables are 60', 50' of self powered (amplified every 10' somehow in the cable). Then coming from the wall outlet I have a 10' cable to the HDMI TV. Output is great on the BR TV

    You said your run would be 100' and there are solutions for that but require an HDMI amplifier not amplified cable. To use multiple TV's you need an HDMI splitter. There are different kinds but with a Web search I found a forum that was discusswing an old mechanical splitter which with moving one soldered wire would actually allow the signal to be split to two HDMI-TV's. It takes a few seconds for the signal to "register" sometimes but it works. Of course the signal is the same on both TV's. The cost was $19.

    If you don't need to watch both TV's at the same time you just need a regular electronic HDMI switch so when you go to the other room you just have to switch to the BR TV using the amplifiers of course. I got my cables at hdtvsupply dot com and they have lots of solutions as do other suppliers.

    Hopefully, in the future, houses will be pre-wired with HDMI cables. In my case I was remodeling using spray foam insulation inside the new interior walls so pre-wired it with coax, network, and HDMI cables. :)
     
  17. TonyT@DISH Network

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    Here's an idea. First, it does mean you are "mirroring" two TV's on TV1 and would require a UHF remote setup for both TV's and a pigtail conversion for the remote to work, or a backfeed for the remote to where the second TV is currently.

    TV2 would run HDMI via an a converter like this ( http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI ethernet converters.html ), TV1 would run component (or with an HDMI splitter, you could do both on HDMI). I also noticed some wall plates that do the same thing for a cleaner installation. This is simply a thought if the Ethernet happens to already be in place, or is easily run (the wire is less intrusive in my opinion). The VIP922 or VIP722(k) w/ Sling Adapter can also use the Sling Receiver 300 unit that is still intended to release over the next 6-9 months I think (that was the impression I got watching a CES video).
     

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