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VIP922 status?

Discussion in 'ViP922 DVR Support Forum' started by PRIME1, Mar 6, 2009.

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  1. Apr 5, 2010 #321 of 388
    bnborg

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    I don't know about the 922, but on my 722 it works fine. Menu-6-1-5 is modulator setup. It has settings for both TV1 and TV2. :)
     
  2. Apr 5, 2010 #322 of 388
    GrumpyBear

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    Are you talking about SD or HD on the TV2 output on coax? I have heard that SD yes, HD No on the TV2 output on Coax for the ViP922
     
  3. Apr 5, 2010 #323 of 388
    P Smith

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    Functionally (connectors wise) it should be same as 722k, as it utilize its HW platform.
     
  4. Apr 5, 2010 #324 of 388
    bnborg

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    There is no HD modulator.

    The coax displays as 720 x 480 i on my HD TV, whether it is TV1 or TV2.
     
  5. Apr 5, 2010 #325 of 388
    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, don't expect HD via modulated output any time in the near future. Combination of expensive components & the networks/movie studios desire to have protected/encrypted content.

    I wouldn't expect the 922 to have any "advances" towards that end.

    What might serve as a substitute, though, could be the Sling output of HD via local network. You'll have to get a sling "catcher" or whatever Dish decides to pair with the 922 on the other end of things... but it might be a viable way to get HD to another room without having to run long HDMI/component cables.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2010 #326 of 388
    GrumpyBear

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    I am hoping things become clearer, between Wednesday and Friday, as it look like the ViP922 will be available, and hopefully the TV Everywhere adapater and Multiroom extender will be available, and we can get some more detailed info on all of the above.
     
  7. Apr 5, 2010 #327 of 388
    MarcusInMD

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    OK,
    If it can do standard def for TV2 that will be fine until the sling catcher shows up to do HD. I just didn't want to be left with less functionality then my 622 has until the sling catcher is available.
     
  8. Apr 5, 2010 #328 of 388
    Bigg

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    Yeah, it's definitely got the modulated output in that video, it's bright orange! HD modulation is big $$$, DirecTV does it, but only for big commercial installs where they want to have their own SMATV setup. Plus, they couldn't do it for HBO.

    Not really knowing anything about the topic, my guess is that the misinformation came from the output being disabled in some beta tests to increase stability and not go in circles chasing bugs on early builds. Note that is 100% speculation.

    $200 for a new sub +$6/mo, that is just amazing, considering it does more than a $900 TiVo, and has a lot more effective HD space (since it's all MPEG-4, Cablecard is all MPEG-2).
     
  9. Apr 5, 2010 #329 of 388
    VDP07

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    Existing customers who haven't upgraded in last 12 mos. and are "A" rated, $200.00, "B" rated $400.00. New DHA24 customers, $200.00 upgrade fee
     
  10. Apr 6, 2010 #330 of 388
    phrelin

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    It's difficult to imagine how to equate these numbers with the fact that I just bought a Slingbox PRO HD for $229.99 and hooked it up to my 722. But we'll see what a 922 will do that makes it so valuable. Right?
     
  11. Apr 6, 2010 #331 of 388
    jcf41

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    Yes, I'm talking SD, just like my 622 does now, and the CSR said no. He said TV2 is available only to other computers using the sling functionality.

    Anyone able to confirm yet?
     
  12. Apr 6, 2010 #332 of 388
    saberfly

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    Dont beleieve everything the CSRs tell you. Ive gotten so many different answers to things ive asked. It gets so confusing talking to them. It has to have TV2 available otherwise it would be useless to most. I dont know if ill upgrade if theres no TV2 and ive been excited about this since they first showed it. Im betting it will have the same function as the 722. Ive read a long time ago it will have seperate sling capabilities from the 2 TVs. I hope thats true.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2010 #333 of 388
    GrumpyBear

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    So it looks like Dish is following suit and charging $4 for MultiRoom viewing, with the 922, by changing the house DVR fee to $10 from $6. Oh well, was hoping with the change of fee's they would jump on that fee, NOT surprised, but was just hoping.
    Hopefully new users can report how DLB and swaping works, while the 922 is slinging to a remote device. Single Mode doesn't bother me as thats how I use both of my DVR's now.
    "• Solo Mode by Default – The model ViP922 receiver is a single-TV solution, and therefore will remain in single user mode by default. The receiver will only go into Duo mode when remote viewing is in session. Once the remote viewing session has ended, the receiver will return to Solo mode. Please note that the MODE button on the front of the receiver will not be enabled and installation of the TV2 physical outputs of the receiver is not supported."
    But I use the SWAP function a LOT, to go between the two tuners, and would hate to lose that function. I my need to get some hands on play to see how things work, while sling/Duo mode is activate, to judge it.
    Or I will have to just post a bunch of questions to 922 users about, Recording timers, watching live TV, and slinging at the sametime.
     
  14. Apr 6, 2010 #334 of 388
    GrumpyBear

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    I think this confirms things for you. Only way to get 2nd TV output is by slinging.

    • Solo Mode by Default – The model ViP922 receiver is a single-TV solution, and therefore will remain in single user mode by default. The receiver will only go into Duo mode when remote viewing is in session. Once the remote viewing session has ended, the receiver will return to Solo mode. Please note that the MODE button on the front of the receiver will not be enabled and installation of the TV2 physical outputs of the receiver is not supported.
     
  15. Apr 6, 2010 #335 of 388
    Bigg

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    That doesn't make any sense- the hardware has an agile modulated output just like the 722. Maybe if you enable Slinging the agile modulation shuts off? They also wouldn't make something that couldn't drop-in replace a 722.

    That would be really dumb though, I should think they could find a CPU fast enough to play HD locally, record 4 channels, play out to the agile modulated output in SD, and Sling to at least one user all at the same time (maybe at the cost of fan noise and power consumption). That is 7 HD streams, is the hard drive fast enough for that? An extreme worst case scenario puts 5 of those 7 as full bitrate (non-sub-channeled) 19mbit ATSC-8VSB signals... That's about 15MB/s to/from the hard drive plus a lot of seeking plus two conversions to process...
     
  16. Apr 6, 2010 #336 of 388
    Bigg

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    Wow- it's posted in the other thread that it is a single-TV solution. Why then does it have the modulated output of the 722 if it's not enabled in software? That, and a higher DVR fee- total letdown.
     
  17. Apr 6, 2010 #337 of 388
    GrumpyBear

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    Higher fee is disappointing, but not surprising. All carriers that have Mulitroom viewing, have a $3-$4 fee for it. I was hoping with the removal of the phoneline discounts, Dish wouldn't be following suit, but oh well. At least you only pay the extra if you have a 922.
    I want to know to how many devices can you sling out to? And can watch one tuner sling out a different tuner, and have a 3rd device watch a recording?
     
  18. Apr 6, 2010 #338 of 388
    Lt Disher

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    It is my understanding that you could sling out to multiple devices, but only one of them could be active at a time. If you had a sling catcher on two other tv's you would only be able to watch one of them at a time. Likewise, you could only watch on either your PC or on your iphone, but not both of then simultaneously. This is the way the Sling works currently also.

    As to your second question, I'm not sure I completely understand, but there are only two tuners. So you could sling out using one tuner, you could watch a recorded show from the DVR, and you could record another show on the second tuner all at the same time. I'm not sure how you would have a third device.
     
  19. Apr 6, 2010 #339 of 388
    RAD

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    Dripping...
    I always was wonding if Dish would have a 922 "surcharge" because of the built in Sling server, got to make up for a possible drop in sales of Sling Solo or HD boxes.
     
  20. Apr 6, 2010 #340 of 388
    MarcusInMD

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    Pretty big letdown IMO.

    So they release the 922 as a single TV solution, charge us more with no coax TV2 output and at the same time not release the sling catcher. So those of us that would depend on one receiver for dual TVs are left out in the cold.

    The pretty new interface, larger hard drive is not worth it to me. My 622 does more (three tuners for recording and I can output to two TVs) and I pay less. Oh well - As much as I wanted this it's simply not worth giving up what I already have until the sling catcher is available for the other TV. I am sure I will be waiting another year and it will probably cost me another 400 or more dollars.

    Might have to check out DirecTV as much as I can't stand their video quality. :(
     
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