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Voom... Why the stigma?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by bartendress, Oct 29, 2007.

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  1. Oct 30, 2007 #61 of 170

    texaswolf Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2007
    hurt my feelings? again...at which point did i mention that? You seem to go to the extreme in your responses...usually when someone types in all caps, or adds 30 exclamation points, they are giving off the impression that they are yelling their statement...therefor my comment to relax...and see you did...it's just internet site dude....it's gonna be allllllll right:feelbette

    and yes everyone should get the channels they want...but it's up to E* to decide which ones go, so new ones can be added.
  2. Oct 30, 2007 #62 of 170

    tomcrown1 Hall Of Fame

    Jan 16, 2006
    I am the little kid as the DISH goes by saying

  3. Oct 30, 2007 #63 of 170

    Marriner Legend

    Jan 23, 2006
    Please speak for yourself. :hurah:
  4. Oct 31, 2007 #64 of 170

    belunos AllStar

    Oct 5, 2007
    Speaking only as an outsider looking in (D* subscriber), I mostly just read complaints about how everything is looped over and over.. as in, almost to no new programming on those channels. I don't know if that perception is correct, but it's the one I get when I read topics about it over here.

    Oh yea, and I perceive people disliking the Voom channels taking up bandwidth that could be used for other broadcasts. Again, just the perspective that I arrive at.
  5. Oct 31, 2007 #65 of 170

    FogCutter Godfather

    Nov 6, 2006
    Monster has some good ones, a few of the other channels come through once in a while. Until recently, D* wasn't offering much better, but the new entries look really good.

    E* will come around and I guess fairly soon. The market is always changing. HD anything doesn't sell like it used to and never will again.
  6. Oct 31, 2007 #66 of 170

    bartendress Godfather

    Oct 8, 2007
    Generally good discussion here... once you filter the D*/E* snarkieness, anyway.

    I'm finding some good stuff on Film Fest and Monster that I'm packing away for a rainy day via my DVR... and I'm really learning a lot about CFL and hope to catch some of the Pan Am Games on World Sport.

    I've been around the block enough to know that the haters will generally always be much more vocal (exponentially so) than the lovers. It's just the way that goes.

    Case in point: All the folks lined up in the aisle within minutes of receiving L446 with their lead pipes, ropes, knives, crowbars, etc. ready to beat up Dish for the OTA audio debacle... yet we've gone over 24 hours and I've yet to see a "We love L447" thread.

    You just know that E* is looking at every opportunity to utilize bandwidth, and I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that E* uses that little phone line/ethernet thingy to track what we're really watching. If they thought for a second that some of the Voom content was REALLY sucking out, they'd shut it down like that bird at 121 and exploit the opportunity.

    It's not their first time at the rodeo.... They know what they are doing.
  7. Nov 1, 2007 #67 of 170

    kinglerch Mentor

    Aug 29, 2007
    That is a valid concern. If you watch VOOM a lot like I do, you do see a lot of repeats. The question though is, are there more repeats than the alternatives? Are the alternatives broadcasting more HD? My guess is that you would find the same or less HD on these new "HD" channels compared to VOOM right now, even considering the repetition.

    Now if you don't like the content, then that's another issue. I can only speak for my own experience. When I had no other HD to watch, several VOOM programs I'd never heard of were really great.
  8. Nov 2, 2007 #68 of 170

    RichP Mentor

    Sep 5, 2003
    I actually went from DirecTV to Dish Network primarily because of Monsters HD, and I haven't been disappointed.
  9. Nov 2, 2007 #69 of 170

    dgeffs Mentor

    Nov 20, 2006
    When you run out and spend $5000 on a nice plasma HDTV the normal expectation is you would like to see some nice HD programming. For the longest time Voom has provided this with superb quality, unique programming and with the added bonus of no commercials. This is a combination that is pretty hard to beat for new HDTV owners. Sure there is repetition and eventually you will see every program and perhaps get a bit bored. I don't watch it near as much as I did at first.

    Perhaps they should consolidate a few of the channels but Voom is hardly a huge waste of bandwidth. We all have different tastes and opinions and I suppose that's what keeps things interesting. While this won't be a popular comment I think the real waste of bandwidth is due entirely to the zillions of sports channels present. It's a sad commentary on our society when sports channels are the most important programming offered. The providers are driven by economics and sports is a huge draw so they give the people what they want even if some of us don't care for it. I'm sure the sports fans probably don't care for the programming on Voom or superbly produced television like Planet Earth either. Different strokes...

    Most of us want new HD programming but the blame for this should not be placed on Voom for sucking bandwidth. It provides great programming especially for the new user and will actually cause more people to demand HD after seeing what is possible. I'd rather watch endless repeats on Voom than SD of any kind. The sooner the people producing the programming realize that many feel this way the sooner they will change.

    Just to give you an example of something fundamentally stupid that has nothing to do with Voom or Sports look at the Food Network. They continue to broadcast their most popular show in SD when it costs virtually nothing to move it to HD. Why do they do this? The networks need to be harassed until they produce everything in HD and obviously that will come some day. You want SciFi in HD - then bitch to the Sci-Fi channel, your dish provider and their advertisers. Tell them you are mad as hell and aren't going to watch SD anymore.
  10. Nov 2, 2007 #70 of 170

    booger Legend

    Oct 31, 2005
    Monsters HD is fantastic. I visit it and Rave quite a bit.
  11. Nov 2, 2007 #71 of 170

    jgurley Legend

    Feb 1, 2005
    I like the uniqueness that Voom offers. When channel surfing I often find myself settling in on some Voom channel, stuff you won't find any where else.

    Yesterday a lunch (I work out of the house) I came across a Phil Collins concert from 2004 on RAVE and it made my afternoon. I grew up with Buddy Holly and the Kingston Trio, but the see and hear "In the Air of Night" and "Take Me Home" was just great. I cranked the volume up, pulled out my guitar, strummed and sang along. My wife came down to see what all the ruckus was about and joined right in. The video and sound was so very good we felt like we was in the audience.
  12. Nov 2, 2007 #72 of 170
    Richard King

    Richard King Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Ah, yes, my favorite channel of them all.
  13. Nov 3, 2007 #73 of 170

    texaswolf Hall Of Fame

    Oct 18, 2007
    I'm a major sports watcher...but I love the Planet Earth stuff too.....they should leave VOOM alone...there are plenty of movie PPV channels that can be used for wanted nationals, until they get the new satellite up.
  14. Nov 3, 2007 #74 of 170

    dbconsultant Hall Of Fame

    Sep 13, 2005
    Temecula, CA
    We've had Dish HD for about a year and a half and still find new stuff to watch on Voom channels. My husband loves the monster channel and we both like equator and rave and, sometimes, filmfest.
  15. Nov 4, 2007 #75 of 170
    Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    Do the Dolans program VOOM? If not who?
  16. Nov 4, 2007 #76 of 170
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Their staff? Voom isn't the only national programming Rainbow Media provides.
  17. Nov 5, 2007 #77 of 170

    dgeffs Mentor

    Nov 20, 2006
    That really was a tremendous concert. I've recorded it and find myself watching it over and over. There was also a Genesis concert aired on Rave that was pretty good too. Where else are you going to find stuff like this with no commercials?
  18. Nov 5, 2007 #78 of 170

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    Now that we've had a little time to get used to the Voom schedules, we are finding some great entertainment. And with the writers strike, these channels could get far more interesting....
  19. Nov 5, 2007 #79 of 170
    Taco Lover

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    Jan 8, 2007
    You'll find some good stuff on Voom. The other day I enjoyed 12 Angry Men on FilmFest. :up:
  20. Nov 6, 2007 #80 of 170

    RobbieB Cool Member

    Jun 21, 2006
    I 'll just echo what's been said by a lot of people. Voom has good PQ but many of the programs aired are dated and replayed too much. Not that I didnt like some of the programming it's just that some of the shows are so old and they only have a few episodes, you quickly run out of new stuff to watch (the original air dates on many of the shows is 2004!).

    I think it's a little funny that we still can't get our local channels in HD yet these local channels are available FREE OTA in HD, they look great and the programming is awesome.

    24, house, heros, prison break, conan obrien :p

    I can't wait for comedy central and FX... maybe cartoon network and disney/nickelodeon for the kids.
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