Wally W/ HD recording 2 satellite channels simultaneously

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  1. RBA

    RBA Well-Known Member

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    Read James Long reply #20
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I would try it by myself ...if I've your equipment ;)
     
  3. Lou Lawrence

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    It has been tested by some but none are DISH folks. I guess I was expecting too much but I heard that the DIRT Team read and posted here. Either it is or either it isn't and either it can or either it cannot but here there are conflicting responses with no way of knowing which is correct.
     
  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Well, you can call DISH 15 times tonight and get 30 different answers or you can believe what people have posted here.
    Are you claiming the answers here are false?

    If you want an official answer (or 30) from DISH you will need to contact DISH directly. The intent of our website is users helping users - and I believe that has been done in this thread.
     
  5. Lou Lawrence

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    I was hoping to hear from the D.I.R.T folks but I have either come to the wrong place or they don't post here any longer. The posts here have said both yes and no but tend to lean toward yes. No documentation appears to exist that there are 2 tuners but it does appear to work that way only if the unit is setup with a hard drive, the DVR service activated and when using a standard home style antenna/LNB setup.
     
  6. haub

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    The Wally will only really "enable" two tuner mode if its on a DPP (includes Trav'ler)/DPH antenna, or DPP44/DPH42 switch. Once you run the test installation (check switch), you'll notice tuner 1 and tuner 2 rows of satellites under switch status.

    The Wally will not enable two tuner mode if its on a Tailgater or any other similar automatic single LNB dome antenna. This includes if you're using the Wally on the secondary port of those types of antennas too. (no switch, single sat).

    Side note...: With two tuners running and a dual tuner OTA adapter plugged in, I have actually been able to record two satellite and two OTA channels at same time on the Wally.
     
  7. Lou Lawrence

    Lou Lawrence New Member

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    Thanks for the answer and clarification.
     
  8. r194ondi

    r194ondi Cool Member

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    Is this accurate from the Dish web site: Wally Receiver Home Page | MyDISH | DISH Customer Support
    The Wally allows you to record one program at a time when a dedicated external hard drive (EHD) is connected to the receiver. Find out how to connect an EHD, so you can record your shows.

    Perhaps this site has not been updated to correct what has been discussed in this thread???
    Ron
     
  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    yeah
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    just absorb what posted here - it's real info from trenches
     
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  10. r194ondi

    r194ondi Cool Member

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    Thanks for the reply--but in a way--the previous answers do not really answer the OP's question.
    James Long post 19 says: "So while the Wally can tune two channels on a dome, they must be at the same orbital location."
    haub post 26 says: "The Wally will only really "enable" two tuner mode if its on a DPP (includes Trav'ler)/DPH antenna,"
    So in a way--this does not answer my question.

    IF I have an autoseaking single LNB dome, like a Tailgater Pro, or Pathfinder X2, (both single LNBs) will the current version of the Wally be able to record 2 HD channels on the same satellite at the same time?
    IF the above is yes---would the above criteria work for viewing 1 HD channel while recording a different HD channel if both are on the same bird?
    OR is it what haub says--"the Wally will not enable 2 channels unless it is on a DPP antenna"--which means perhaps--NOBODY can record 2 channels at the same time using a Wally and any of the single LNB domes!
    Perhaps those that say then can--setup the Wally at home on a DPP permanent multiple LNB dish setup, save the setup so it is then used when the Wally is connected???
    Ron
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    what would prevent you to change just your existing LNBF (what kind you have now ?) to DPP type ?
    One sat does carry a lot of transponders (often 32 or more) and each one piping 10+ channels.
    So, if you will stay/play/record with two channels from that limit, then - yes.
    No, you cant save home config and expect use it in RV outdoor. No way !
     
  12. NYDutch

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    There many of us RV'ers that are using "home" configurations while traveling, but not with the automatic domes. I use a tripod mounted 1000.4 for instance, to feed our Hopper2, swapping EA and WA LNBF's as needed for the best aiming opportunities. Others with deeper wallets use a roof mounted Wingard Trav'ler system that's basically a 1000.2 WA dish attached to an auto aiming system.

    The automatic domes do not use offset LNB's that are compatible with swapping in a DPP LNB. They use smaller center mounted dual reflector LNB setups. Below are pics of first a Tailgater and then a Pathway X2 with the covers off.

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  13. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I'm vividly remember a thread where discussed swap LNBF in dome(s), it was in DTV forum...
     
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    If you can find a Dish DPP LNB that's suitable for automatic dome use, please let us know where.
     
  15. reubenray

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    I am just now starting to check into the dome type dishes and reading as much as I can. From what I understand the Wally will not record two channels at the same time. Will it let you record one and watch another one at the same time?
     
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    With a dome, the Wally w/EHD and 2 tuner OTA adapter choices are to record one satellite and one OTA program while watching another OTA program, or record up to two OTA programs while watching a sat program, or record one sat program and two OTA programs while watching a recorded program.
     
  17. r194ondi

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    Happy Holidays. Thanks guys--you ALMOST fully answered my questions--->
    So IF I had a EHD connected, (which I did not specifically mention--but assumed it was installed since I mentioned "recording") but with NO OTA adapter (a lot of places we go there is no OTA)--with a single Wally connected to the Pathway x2 (current version) will I be able to view on channel while recording a different channel while both channels are on the same physical satellite?
    If the answer to this is YES, then your answer disputes "haub post 26 says: "The Wally will only really "enable" two tuner mode if its on a DPP (includes Trav'ler)/DPH antenna,"
    If the answer is NO, will a Hopper 3 do what I want?
    Ron
     
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  18. NYDutch

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    No, the Pathway X2 (or any other single LNB dome) will not activate the Wally's second tuner unless there's been an update I'm not aware of. A DPP or DPH equipped open face dish (including the Trav'ler) will activate the Wally's second tuner and will also work with a Hopper. None of the single LNB domes work with a Hopper.
     
  19. r194ondi

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    Thanks Dutch for the follow up. I was hoping James Long post 19 says: "So while the Wally can tune two channels on a dome, they must be at the same orbital location." was correct--but I guess I was reading something into his post that was not there.
    That's a bummer--I was looking for a much simplified setup--not to be I guess.
    Ron
     
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  20. NYDutch

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    I think we'd all prefer that if we could, Ron... :D
     

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