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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by TomF, Sep 6, 2018.

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  1. Sep 14, 2018 #41 of 108
    Rich

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    Be more interesting to hear what you don't like. Gotta be something.

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  2. Sep 14, 2018 #42 of 108
    carl robbins

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    Well i've been testing hopper and Joey's and trying all the many features but so far the only thing I don't like is there is no 4k broadcasting yet on the 2 4k channels. They have free and paid 4k movies available and I did watch star trek beyond in 4k and it was perfect. When switching from 4k signal to 1080 programming their is couple of seconds of snow but nothing much else negative to report yet. Connecting a 2tb external drive today and we will see how that goes.
     
  3. Sep 14, 2018 #43 of 108
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    Do you see any difference in PQ?

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  4. Sep 14, 2018 #44 of 108
    carl robbins

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    I really haven't seen any noticeable with PQ but wife said it looks different. Not bad just different. My locals look great. I think I would have to do side by side comparison to really tell any difference which makes me happy.
     
  5. Sep 14, 2018 #45 of 108
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    Reason I asked was several folks that have Dish have said it seems to be not quite as good as D*'s PQ. Don't remember exactly how they phrased that. Yeah, if you don't see much difference side-by-side would be necessary. Doesn't matter, I'd think anyone could adapt if the difference wasn't drastic. If you didn't see anything to complain about right off the bat, that's good.

    You know what's wrong with the D* DVRs, let's give it a couple weeks and see what you think of the hardware and software.

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  6. Sep 14, 2018 #46 of 108
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    Well, the DirecTV installer showed up this morning, but he didn't have an HR54 on the truck. When I met him at the door I told him that if he wasn't going to install an HR54, then we weren't going forward with the install. He completely understood and he called three other installers to try and find an HR54 but was unsuccessful. He totally agreed with my cancelling the installation and told me how many problems they had with the Genie 2. He said that he had three service calls later today for Genie 2 problems. He actually said "Don't get sucked into the Genie 2, they're not reliable."

    Interestingly, after I called DirectV yesterday, the work order got changed and then showed a Genie 2 installation, after I specifically told the customer retention CSR that I only wanted an HR54. So the installation has now been scheduled for Monday afternoon. We'll see what happens then...
     
  7. Sep 14, 2018 #47 of 108
    carl robbins

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    Well don't take a genie 2 for sure unless they give you a spare..lol. I did find a problem with my dvr tonight. The built in wifi is very slow for some reason, like 8 mbs which is OK for HD barely but forget about 4k. So I will be connecting ethernet. I noticed that the stream pqis better than satellite PQ but not by much.
    I think they want to unload the hose genie z2 s on everybody for some reason.
     
  8. Sep 15, 2018 #48 of 108
    reubenray

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    My neighbor who thought he was getting a HR44 yesterday actually got a HR54 and he has no intentions getting 4K. He also got the reverse band LNB. The installer said they are installing these LNB's instead of anything else. This is in South Alabama
     
  9. Sep 15, 2018 #49 of 108
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    Lack of 4K was one of the main reasons I left Dish. Had a Hopper 3 and two Joey 4Ks for two years and managed to see one World Cup soccer game in 4K (not really my thing). I called several times asking about more 4K programming, but it was always “nothing more at this time”, nice you got to see Star Trek. I’m sure they’ll eventually get more. I’ve found that DTV HD upscales to 4K much better than Dish (the other reason I left), looks sharper on an HD TV as well.

    I’m going to keep pushing back on the Genie 2/HS17 bashing, mine works very well and I’m not buying the single point of failure argument (your Hopper 3 is the same way). As for unloading them my experience was different there as well as I wanted one, they were giving away HR54s, but even with the free equipment install wanted to charge $99 for HS17. I know I’m not going to convince you guys, but someone else reading can know there are different opinions.

    Not sure whose WiFi you’re referring to? In Dish gear? I’d always choose wired if available anyway, leave WiFi for the tablets and other devices that have no options.
     
  10. Sep 15, 2018 #50 of 108
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    There has always been a disconnect between CSRs and installers. Glad to see you pushed back.

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    Can you expand on that? Built into what?

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  12. Sep 15, 2018 #52 of 108
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    couldn't be !
    no upscale done by any dtv or dish equipment
     
  13. Sep 15, 2018 #53 of 108
    bmcleod

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    Yes it could! But maybe you misunderstood my point. The HD signal generated by the Dish and DTV clients gets upscaled to UHD by the TV or other downstream device, the better the original signal/picture starts out the better the results of the upscaling. I contend DTV’s picture starts out better than Dish’s, which is why it’s also noticeable on an HD TV. Certainly this is my subjective opinion, but I’ve had recent experience upscaling both a Hopper 3 and an HS17/C61K with an 85” UHD TV that is considered to have a very good upscaling engine (read about the X1 Extreme Processor if you’re interested).
     
  14. Sep 15, 2018 #54 of 108
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    The HS17 has built in 5GHz wifi server for the clients it supports. It also can be a wifi (or wired) client on your LAN. One of the reasons for it's physical design and requirement to be installed vertically is to best position the wifi antennas to serve your residence.
     
  15. Sep 16, 2018 #55 of 108
    P Smith

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    the equipment does not upscale to UHD
    your TV does, I'm agree
     
  16. Sep 16, 2018 #56 of 108
    bmcleod

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    I may abbreviate too much, by “DTV HD” I mean the signal / picture DirectTV is able to deliver to the upscaling device (usually the TV). But we agree so good! :)
     
  17. Sep 16, 2018 #57 of 108
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    I agree wholeheartedly. I've said this over and over. If you give a good 4K set a 1080p feed to upscale you get a better picture than what you get from 720p or 1080i content. This very obvious, I think, when comparing the same content on NF and D*. NF puts out 1080p on most content. As does AP.

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    How does that fit into a home with two Netgear Nighthawks (or any existing Wifi system), one used as an access point? Can the server in the 17s be an option, can it be shut off if not needed?

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  19. Sep 16, 2018 #59 of 108
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    From time to time I get criticized for using "D*", meaning Directv. I don't think I was the first one here to do that and most likely saw the advantage of using three keystrokes for D* rather than typing out Directv, which takes 8 keystrokes. D* probably came from the once common usage of E* for, IIRC, Dish at the time. IIRC.

    In any event, even though it generates criticism I've never seen or felt that anyone here was confused by D*. However it started it seems to be accepted by most of us. I'm seeing more and more folks use "DTV". If you ask Google to define the acronym DTV you can see why using that acronym can be confusing. Of course, D* brings up nothing when Googled. But I don't see that used anyplace but here. Just a thought.

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  20. Sep 16, 2018 #60 of 108
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    D* means DIRECTV, E* means Dish Network, aka Echostar.

    Rich, that got started here years ago, but I know you know that already. :)

    I also agree with your prior posts, the first D* DVR’s were POS. Seeing that they already had a partnership with TiVo, what D* should have done is bought them. They could have offered the best DVR experience out there. They probably wouldn’t have had all the issues they had with their own DVR’s. DirecTiVo anyone? :)
     

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