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"Weed" from the NY Daily News

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  1. Rich

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    We had it happen several times. Just not paying attention. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to drive a forklift thru a cinderblock wall.

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  2. Rich

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    Well Charlie, I can tell you pot impairs your ability to drive much differently than alcohol does. Just like alcohol, it slows your reflexes down to a point where it becomes dangerous. But, I've never talked to anyone that got a speeding ticket when driving stoned.

    When I was in my 30s and playing ball, we played a bar team for a keg. Before the game I had two glasses of beer straight from the keg. I was playing third base that day and had a line drive hit to me. I flicked my glove up, certain that I had it and the ball went between the glove and my ear. Last time I ever took a drink before or during a game. Scared hell out of me.

    There's more to that article than just pot and alcohol. The important part is the abuse of prescription drugs. That's getting to be a huge problem.

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    Doesn't seem fair, does it? That shop steward was really PO'd about that. He put up a very good argument, but it fell on deaf ears. The woman holding the meeting told him he could look forward to more random testing than others. Big mistake. The union president was there too and he jumped up and told her if that happened the union would go after them for harassment. Then the shop steward asked her if she'd like the NAACP picketing the plant because a black shop steward was getting harassed. That meeting ended pretty quickly. After that, the company made it clear that the testing would be purely random. The woman disappeared.

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  4. Rich

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    Exactly. Years ago, Playboy proved that Wrigley chewing gum was the "Gateway Drug". Using the same logic you did about milk. Playboy (I only read it for the articles) has always been a proponent of legalization.

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  5. Rich

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    Please don't forget that article is about prescription drugs and their abuse, too. That's getting to be a huge problem. A drug company just released a story about painkiller still in testing that does much the same thing as Oxy does but without the euphoria. Apparently, not many people want to use it, they want that "feel good" feeling. Here's a link to that story.

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  6. yosoyellobo

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    Was she ever found?
     
  7. Cholly

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    re: prescription drugs -- I recently underwent some serious hiatal hernia surgery and was given Hydrocodone (a narcotic) and Tramadol (an opiate) for pain. One Oxycodone at night time and Tramadol during the day. Both can become addictive and both have warnings about driving, operating machinery, etc. After getting out of the hospital, I got off the Oxycodone as soon as possible, and used Tramadol in its place for 4 weeks. I'm now taking two 325 mg.Tylenol 4 times a day for pain management with doctor's approval. He cautioned against using the higher strength versions of Tylenol, because as with all NSAIDs, liver damage can occur. Painkillers in general carry a high risk.

    After discharge from the hospital, I was also given Ambien to help me sleep. My prescription was for 30 days and then I was to discontinue it. One thing they didn't mention was Ambien withdrawal. One effect is sleep deprivation. I went for over a week, being unable to sleep. although sometimes I could get about an hour's sleep. (Ambien withdrawal is serious enough to lead to addiction). That was enough for me to promise myself not to use any sleeping pills in the future.

    Edit - correction: should have been Hydrocodone, not Oxycodone. Changed above.
     
  8. Laxguy

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    2600 Mgs of Tylenol a day? That does seem a lot. My layman's understanding is there are side effects to each of the three major OTC drugs for pain. (Aspirin, ibuprofen, aceteminophen (sp on the last one)).
     
  9. Rich

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    She got transferred to another site to spread the Word.

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  10. Rich

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    I've refused Oxy prescriptions several times in the last couple years. We tried Ambien and stopped that quickly. I've been reading some serious stuff about acetaminophen and liver damage and nothing I've read has mentioned the various strengths. Just acetaminophen in general.

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  11. Rich

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    Does seem like a lot. Don't you have a spellchecker (serious question, not busting)? Mine came up with acetaminophen. You were close. I dunno, Tylenol never did much for me.

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  12. Laxguy

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    Yes, a spil chukker I heave. The word "acetaminophen" is in there. But the spell checker just underlines a misspelled word, and I didn't then have time to search it out. Usually I do know how to sepell most words I trype, and can correct them without the dickshunaree. Many tymes, that is.

    Seriously, now, I use mostly ibuprofen for aches in joints, muscles and tendons, 600 mgs at a dose, usually no more than once a day.
     
  13. Herdfan

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    Oxycodone is also an opiate. It is derived from codeine.

    When I had my first knee surgery back in college, the Dr. prescribed me some type of opiate pain killer. Being on my knees throwing from the nausea hurt worse than the pain from the surgery. So I have not had a narcotic pain killer since.

    It's weird though that I can take codeine cough syrup with no issues.

    Where I live Oxy is a huge problem. Some pharmacies won't even stock it for fear of being robbed. So if you have a script, they will order it in for you the next day. Dumba**es here dump it out and snort it like coke.
     
  14. Cholly

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    My mistake earlier. I was prescribed Hydrocodone, not Oxycodone. Hydrocodone, although an opiate, is classified as a narcotic and is 1.5 times as powerful as Oxy.
     
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    I hate meds and don't take anything except Imodium for light IBS.

    When I damn near died in December 2012, I was in ICU 2 weeks and then a month in a rehab facility ... Not a addiction rehab, it was to ween off a ventilator and get used to having a tracheotomy. I was on morphine 4x a day and I felt AMAZING. They then started giving me Oxy instead. My last 3 days there, I refused all meds to get used to being normal. I learned a difficult lesson that Oxy is VERY addicting. I was physically ill for about a day. I gave in and took a smaller dose.

    Upon release home, I only took hydrocordone. That was easy to get off of for me.

    I returned to the hospital in March for 3 days for a UTI. I got morphine at night and felt AMAZING again. I'm back to not taking anything since then.
     
  16. Rich

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    I get horribly constipated when I use codeine cough syrup. That brings on a major flare up of my roids. I'd rather cough than take it. Just not worth the suffering.

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    There is a reason why heroin addicts are heroin addicts.

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    My sweet, wonderful mother-in-law is dying. She has a few months to live - give or take. Reason? Liver damage from cirrhosis.

    Our initial reaction was "But she's not an alcoholic!" - Neither I, nor anyone else ever saw her have more than one drink a day.

    When they were doing some cleanup around the house while she was in the hospital, they found innumerable bottles of tylenol (acetaminophen). That's when I learned about the effects it can have on the liver.

    And she certainly wasn't hiding any drinking since she's now ADAMANT about never having alcohol again - and has had no trouble keeping that pledge.
     
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    It seems that the tipping point for liver damage when taking Tylenol is 4 grams daily, perhaps less if one is also consuming alcohol. To be on the safe side,alcohol should not be consumed while taking Tylenol, or at least reduced to less than 3 oz. per day.
     
  20. Herdfan

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    So that is 8 Extra Strength or 13-14 Regular Strength tablets. I may take 3 tablets a week so no worries.
     

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