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  1. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Man that's a confusing thread, especially if you've got no experience with (nor interest in) diplexing OTA. I just want to know what kind of splitters I ought to use for the lines from my dish.

    I found some other threads where people are having good luck with Skywalker splitters, so that's what I've got on order from Solid Signal. I guess we'll see. :)
     
  2. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    Took some searching, but here's my splitter info with specs in the linked PDF (page 4) ...

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    In the post [post=982553]982553[/post]:
     

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  3. dmurphy

    dmurphy Active Member

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    My question is this ....

    I know that the PI requires a 15' or more cable length to the SWM because it's too "hot" of a signal.

    Is there any minimum length restriction on the rest of the cabling due to signal reflection, etc?

    I want to undo the rat's nest in the basement (split signal to two switches; one powered, one unpowered.) and mount everything on a backer board. But I want to do it right, and if I can cut some 6" cables, that would reduce the clutter significantly.
     
  4. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I don't believe so, going by all the pics I've seen of others' installations. Personally, I'm planning on using jumpers of about 3' between the splitters from my incoming lines from the dish and the two switching units (SWM8 and WB68).
     
  5. dmurphy

    dmurphy Active Member

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    Good enough! My jumble o'wire is destined for the scrap heap then. :)

    Right now I have splitters to a WB68 and a SAM-4803 multiswitch. We're going to ditch the SAM-4803 and replace it with the SWM8.

    I can't wait - this is going to clean up nicely!
     
  6. Grentz

    Grentz New Member

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    Anyone receiving their SL3s units yet (SWMLine 3 LNB)?
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    OK...to keep it simple...the best-rated splitter to use in the comparitive study was the Skywalker SKY23302D Splitter. I bought 6 of these, and have used them all now for over a year with outstanding results.

    4 are used to split the inbound signal from the dish to feed both a SMW8 and a SWM5 in parallel, and the other 2 are used to split the SWM1 and SWM2 outputs (4 feeds, 8 tuners) from the SWM8 unit itself.

    I have more photos in my First Look thread post.
     

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  8. dmurphy

    dmurphy Active Member

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    OK, more splitter confusion on my part ...

    I'm trying to be cheap (cheep! cheep!) and reuse existing hardware when possible ...

    Currently, I have 4 splitters (single port power passing, 40-2050MHz) coming from the dish to my two multiswitches.

    I'd like to replace one of the multiswitches with the SWM8. Are those 40-2050MHz splitters OK for the dish-to-SWM communication?

    For the SWM-to-receiver splitters, I have 2x JVI 25-HFS22DN (5-2300MHz, all ports power passing) splitters. I'd like to connect one each to the SWM1 and SWM2 ports on the SWM8. Any theories as to this splitter's viability?

    Thanks!
     
  9. Grentz

    Grentz New Member

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    If those 4 splitters are working with multiswitches already, they will be just fine with the SWM8...it is exactly the same as a multiswitch on the dish side.

    The 5-2300 splitters should work fine on the SWM side as well.
     
  10. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Woohoo! I have four of them on the way right now (I goofed and forgot that I had to split the SWM outputs too - d'oh! I need to order a couple more!). So when the ones I have already ordered arrive, I'll use the two SWM outputs on my two HR2x units until the other two arrive, then I'll split one of those for my R22 (which will have to stay connected to the WB68 for now). I'll still end up with a free port on the WB68 so I'll be able to run a second line to my younger daughter's room and get the second tuner on her R15 connected.
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like you'll be all set after the other 2 arrive.

    Mine have been in place since my SWM5 was installed, so I just swapped that out with my SWM8 in parallel, and added the splitters on the outputs. That gives me a total of 13 ports now....whoohoo indeed - 8 are already used, and 2 more may be soon with another HD DVR.

    From my actual field experience, the signal loss with these splitters is very, very low.
     
  12. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    That's great to know. :)

    So once my system is totally transitioned, I'll have 10 tuners in use on my 5 DVRs: 4 on the WB68 and 6 on the SWM8. I will obviously still have capacity to add 4 more tuners through the WB68 and 2 more on the SWM8. I can't wait to get things swapped!

    EDITED TO ADD: Okay, in my scenario, I forgot about the three legacy ports on the SWM8. Does that mean I could conceivably add 3 more non-HD tuners over the 8 through through the SWM ports? If so, I may do a bit of "future proofing" and run one of my R15-500's through it, leaving two more HD-compatible ports free on the WB68. I don't KNOW that I will replace the kids' TVs with HD flat panels and HD-DVRs, but it could happen someday. :D
     
  13. Grentz

    Grentz New Member

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    Yup, the legacy ports each act like a regular output from a Phase III dish (IE they output satellites 101/110/119). They do not work to receive the new HD though as they do not output 99 or 103.

    Glad you like the Skywalkers and they work well with the SWM. I actually ended up ordering one of the SKY23302D splitters as well to split the SWM output. It was $3.99 instead of paying $5.99 for the SWS-2 and it should do the exact same thing!
     
  14. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Got my cabling and the first 4 of my spliters today (I have two more coming later this week) so I expect I'll be down in the crawlspace this Saturday. :)

    I am said to say that I am betraying my engineering degree by noting that my rewiring is NOT going to be picture-perfect like those of you who have dared show a pic. Mine is going to be a quick and dirty hack, essentially "splicing in" the splitters and jumper cables upstream from the WB68, connecting the SWM8 and rerouting the appropriate feeds, and then restarting my boxen one after another. Once soccer season ends (mid-November) I may climb back down there and remount things neatly to a backer board but for now, I just want functionality! I will label the lines for later identification, however.
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Well we still wish you the best - its all about the HD viewing, after all! :)

    Oh my gosh....I guess I've cross the line and entered.....

    (the 8K post Zone....I need to shut up more....ask my wife...)
     
  16. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Hey, congratulations! :goodjob:

    I just realized that once my second two splitters arrive, I'm going to have to do a little rearranging anyway. I might go ahead and run by Lowe's Saturday morning for a sheet of plywood and box of short wood screws before I start. They open early (yes, that's guilt talking :lol:)
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks...I'm just glad to help once in a while if I can. I try.

    I kinda went down the same path....at first, I told myself I would just put in the new SWM8 as a replacement for the SWM5 (in parallel with the Zinwell already in place too).

    Then reality set in...my perfectionism....and soon both the SWM8 and SWM5 were in place with all new firmed up placements and connections for 13 total ports on the board.

    It's tough being German sometimes. :lol:
     
  18. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I'm Swiss and my grandfather (emigrated in 1940) was an engineer too. So now all I can think about is a half-sheet of plywood covered with splitters, switches and wiring, all neatly organized and mounted in my crawlspace. Damn my Alpine nature! :lol:
     
  19. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    My last two splitters came today from Solid Signal. So . . . Saturday morning it's off to Lowe's for some woodscrews to mount the components, a half-sheet of plywood, and a few other things. Then it's time to rewire! :)
     
  20. HDTVsportsfan

    HDTVsportsfan Active Member

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    You're not done yet. Slacker........... :p :p :grin:
     

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