Well now ("C71KW-400" Client)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by compnurd, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    at least it's the "os" in your recent post
     
  2. justin may

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  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    OK.
    Then "Linux-based" should satisfy most people here
     
  4. CTJon

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    There are substantial parts of the country with no high speed internet so for them? Also is there DVR function - assume it is cloud based. I'll bet the 80-90 ends up more than 150 + internet service for most customers.
     
  5. slice1900

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    Then Directv should have used something that doesn't suck, since there's no reason a GUI should require a lot of CPU to render. NeXT machines had a great GUI on a 25 MHz CPU in the 90s, and they couldn't come close to triple digits in Geekbench (if they had enough RAM to run it, which they didn't)
     
  6. NashGuy

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    There's some truth in what you say here. But I've tried Android TV 6.0 on the Mi Box from Xiaomi ($69 at Walmart) and the UI ran fine. As the linked review states, the UI is snappy. You can quickly scroll through items. Apps launch quickly. Voice search is responsive. I'm not sure what the deal is with those Sony TVs running Android TV but, yes, the OS appears to be underpowered there. I think the forthcoming C71 box from DirecTV will be at least as powerful (probably more powerful) than the Mi Box which debuted in fall 2016.

    It's also worth noting that Google's main agenda with regard to Android TV right now is to optimize the OS to run better on lower-powered hardware. They're building that optimization into the upcoming version 8.0 and will also look to backport those optimizations into the current version 7.0. I'm pretty sure that the C71 was submitted to the FCC last fall running Android TV 6.0 but hopefully it will be upgraded to an optimized version 7.0 (if not 8.0) before AT&T releases it this fall.
     
  7. Z513

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    Do you at least know which SoC are available to Android TV Set-to-box OEM ?
    Basically you choose between Synaptics (Marvell), Broadcom, Amlogic and HiSilicon.

    The BCM7271 is currently the best one from Broadcom so it should run fine on Android TV.
    Amlogic offers the S905 and S912 and they match the Broadcom's performances.
    Other SoC are also more or less the same.
     
  8. justin may

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    The Mi Box* is not terribly performant (it's sluggish as hell) but is substantially faster in every benchmark than this DTV thing. Critically, it has more ram.

    *Xiaomi makes many boxes that are all called the Mi Box. The US market 'Mi Box' runs garbage tier hardware and runs like ****, but it has more ram than this DTV thing.
     
  9. NashGuy

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    That wasn't my experience with with the US Mi Box. The UI seemed about as responsive as my old Apple TV 3. Fluid scrolling through rows of apps and other UI elements. Fairly quick app launch times -- it was maybe slower there than the ATV3, maybe more on par there with the current Fire TV Stick.

    However, the Mi Box I bought did have some sort of weird glitch that would cause it to stutter every so often when playing back video streams in certain apps like Hulu, so I returned it. (Based on comments I read on reddit, I think at least the initial batch of the US Mi Box had higher defect rates than such devices typically do. Poor quality control, I suppose. Lots of other users, though, confirmed that their unit did not show the video glitch that mine did.)
     
  10. justin may

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    You are the only person I am aware of who found the ultra slow Mi Box to be responsive.
     
  11. electrowiz64

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    I think I have an idea of what they are doing.
    I believe it will just be called DirecTV or something but yea it would be unified like they planned. I assume you could use any streaming device you want.

    I assume they’ll be limited to 2 (maybe 3) streams over the internet only due to bandwidth limitations. They could rely on the HS27 which has a satellite tuner to deliver more TV streams. The HS17 can already deliver 8 TV streams at once. The HS27 could also be used if the customer is remote and their internet sucks or if they have UVerse/DSL which already has low bandwidth.

    Assuming they could just do network discovery, I don’t see why either fire TVs or the C71 Could work but the c71 could give the customer more options.
     
  12. Rich

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    When you compare what a D* remote can do against and FTV or an ATV the D* remotes do more. Watching sports without a 30 Second click forward would be a loss. The ATV's only jump back or forward 10 seconds. About the same on the FTVs. The ATVs have a touchpad that might work on sports, might. For regular programming the 10 second forward and back is enough for me. No commercials, no need for a longer period of time.

    Streaming is so simple you don't really need a complicated remote for watching normal programs, sports programming and using an Apple remote...I dunno. I like the D* remotes for that, but I suppose I could adapt. Put simply, you don't need a remote with a bzillion buttons on it to watch a streaming GoTs episode.

    But for sports...where trickplay comes into its own, I like the D* remotes. YMMV.

    Rich
     
  13. slice1900

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    I actually doubt that last part. I think you will have to use Directv provided equipment. If you want to bring your own equipment there is already a product for you, Directv Now.
     
  14. Rich

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    Oh yeah, that's what's gonna happen. Monthly payments on each box. Another money stream.

    Rich
     
  15. inkahauts

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    Eh, actually I wonder.. I think they may simply offer a box but not require it. They can charge you by the number of streams you want either way.. just like Netflix and others already do.
     
  16. electrowiz64

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    They could just scrap that idea. And then charge a flat fee for the HS27 for maybe $20 or $30 more cuz it’s obviously gonna be used for more TVs
     
  17. James Long

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    It would be simple to charge a fee for "up to" X number of clients connected - charging whether the clients are connected or not. It would fit with the current concept of "up to" X streams on streaming providers.
     
  18. slice1900

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    There won't be an HS27 or any sort of Genie server for the 'Directv over IP' product. That, and the lack of a dish, are what will make this product cheaper for Directv to install than satellite.
     
  19. slice1900

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    I doubt all their contracts consider video streamed to customer devices the same as video streamed to Directv owned/controlled devices. Otherwise why create this new product at all when it would be identical to Directv Now other than the package selection - they'd just add new package choices to Directv Now.
     
  20. electrowiz64

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    The HS27 is for those who need more streams or cannot get a fast enough connection. You really think they’re just gonna alienate rural customers or UVerse and DSL customers? And like cmon you really think they have the capacity to have that many streams over the internet at once? Only PlayStation Vue has a 5 stream limit but they’re expensive. What about people with 100mbit cable internet?
     

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