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What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 1, 2008.

What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

  1. DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x.

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  2. I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them.

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  3. I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK.

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  4. I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate.

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  5. Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit.

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  1. Que

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    So are you saying that DIRECTV's Chief Technology Officer Romulo Pontual lie to us?? Why would he do that. He could of just said "NO" or just not say anything at all...... We will just have to wait and see.

    Maybe we can ask him. Anyone have his email address?


    [edit] If you want to find the link, it is in my signature.
     
  2. Que

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    ...but it's not just Tivo with DLB. EVERY OTHER DVR out there has DLB. Just not the DirecTV plus line DVR.

    [google] "Swap tuners" "How to change to the other Tuner"
     
  3. Doug Brott

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    Que, maybe one of these days we'll see your face ..

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  4. puffnstuff

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    That's exactly what I've said before and I'm sticking to it . Hell , who knows if he even knows what DLB are . That's why we haven't heard crap from him since then .
     
  5. Mike Bertelson

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    Seriously, do really believe the Chief of Technology for DirecTV doesn't know what Dual Live Buffers are?

    We know DirecTV is aware of this forum and this thread.

    When I was in college I visited a company that made golf clubs as part of my senior project. I got to meet the head of R&D. His office was jam packed with golf clubs.

    There were no less then 100 clubs in varing degrees of dissembly. Club heads cut in sections in every direction you can think of. And Oh Yeah, 90% of the equipment belonged to the competition.

    Romulo Pontual is well aware of what features are in his DVRs. I pretty darned sure he knows what's in the competitions hardware/software almost as well.

    My point....IMHO, Romulo Pontual not only knows what DLB is but is also painfully aware that the DVR+ doesn't have them.

    For my 2¢ anyway....

    Mike
     
  6. dennisj00

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    Some CTOs know their business / some don't. I was consulting with a fabric manufacturer 15 years ago that bought a mult- Million $ Enterprise Manufacturing System on the recommendation of a big Four accounting house.

    They sold their product by yardage or bolts of cloth. Turns out the only units of measure this highly recommended package would do was pairs or boxes (of shoes)! They had used it for a shoe manufacturer!

    Could be why we don't have DLB . . .
     
  7. Mike Bertelson

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    I would have to say that's the exception rather then the rule.

    Especially considering we're talking about mature products and not new technology. :)

    You don't work with this kind of product for years and not know what it does.

    Mike
     
  8. puffnstuff

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    Maybe he does or doesn't but I have never talked to anybody at Directv that does and their lack of progress on the issue doesn't lead me to believe otherwise . Also to say something better is coming and leave it at that , is bull , at least let us know some kind of time frame . That way I can at least be happy until that date comes and they miss it .
     
  9. Richierich

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    I am AUTORIZING THIS THREAD to be CLOSED, so MODERATORS do your job and shut it down!!!

    Either get me DLB or Close This Thread as I am tired of the debate and being teased either deliberately or accidentally!!! LOL!!!
     
  10. GrumpyBear

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    Yes I found were you reopened this thread and then unstuck right after the Something Better than DLB thread was started May 3rd. This thread was to live an die on its own, back on page 62/63 May 4-6th, with all the Better than DLB fans, predicting the end of this debate, as DLB wouldn't be needed.

    Looks like Something better is Still DOWN THE road, and DLB wishing is here to stay. I think it might be easier to list the Carriers that DON'T offer DLB than those that do nowadays. Granted D* is right at the top, of the MISSING FEATURE
     
  11. Jhon69

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    Yea almost all the subscribers I have talked about changing from the HR10-250 to the DVR+ don't know DLB.But then they ask about"swapping tuners" you know they know exactly what DLB is.:(
     
  12. Rocker07

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    Soooooo, you're saying he just doesn't give a $@&%.
     
  13. Buddy

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    So, this thread has been going for 6 months and nearly 2600 posts. Why doesn't D* get the message? Yeah, because they don't give a @#$&#*($. This feature is just not that difficult to implement and D* is making a conscious decision to ignore a significant part of it's customer base. I don't know if other cable systems have DVRs that do this but I am going to start looking around as I no longer subscribe to NFL Sunday ticket and that was the only thing keeping me on D*. This box has been a disappointment from day one and I could list a dozen deficiencies that have not been fixed in the year and a half that I have had this box.
     
  14. Mike Bertelson

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    I don't think I ever said anything about how Directv feels about DLB. :sure:

    My point was just that I don't believe that Directv is unaware of DLB and how we feel about it.

    I don't know why people seem to think this is so simple. If you read through this and the original DLB thread (link below) you will see it's much deeper then that.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=62118

    I can hear it now, "it is that simple, implement it or tell us why not". :rolleyes:

    It is very rare for a company to give reasons for making a particular decision. I don't understand why people think Directv owes us an explaination. They're not elected officials, they are a business making business decisions. They are under no obligation to tell us anything regardless of the fact we think it's the right thing to do. I agree with the idea that Directv should tell us something but I'm not holding my breath. :grin:

    What if the reason has to do with a future feature set. Do you think they would give away with kind of info?

    At any rate, I think that the situation is more complicated then "do it or tell us why"

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a big advocate for DLB but I'm under no illusions that Directv (or any company for that matter) will ever justify or give reasons for their decisions.

    I (and others) have posted theories as to why Directv went from saying we're trying to find the best way to implement DBL to saying they've decided not to include DLB.

    But, I have to admit, even with all theories and speculation, I thought there would be somthing by now. :(

    I kind of thought that they would have "something better" ready for football season but I guess not....bummer...:nono2:

    I keep waiting and hoping but I'm also realistic as to what I can expect for information.

    Who knows, maybe when the implement "something better", they might give us some reasons...or not.:lol:

    Mike
     
  15. DC_SnDvl

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    Don't forget a real slo-mo feature. How can holding the pause button for 3 seconds before it starts be called a usable feature?
     
  16. DC_SnDvl

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    If he knew what is was it would have been in the R15.
     
  17. Stuart Sweet

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    That's not a fair assessment. Perhaps you meant to say, "if he knew how important it was to this group, he might have included it."
     
  18. sagle

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    Keep in mind, this is a DBS company, not a DVR company. The CTO may be an expert in much of the technology, but not DVRs, or he may know DVRs inside and out. I don't think anyone knows his level of knowledge unless to you know the CTO personally. I want DLB too, but I am pretty sure the CTO has other things on his plate he is more worried about.
     
  19. Stuart Sweet

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    When I met Mr. Pontual at the Consumer Electronics Show in January, he seemed extremely knowledgeable about DVRs. We spoke for some time, and he seemed extremely well-versed.
     
  20. Doug Brott

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    Would the existence of DLB keep you with DIRECTV? ..
     
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