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What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 1, 2008.

What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

  1. DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x.

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  2. I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them.

    221 vote(s)
    9.2%
  3. I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK.

    409 vote(s)
    17.0%
  4. I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate.

    167 vote(s)
    6.9%
  5. Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit.

    1,613 vote(s)
    66.9%
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  1. jjohns

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    Who cares whether its a "feature" versus "enhancement" or whether it is "back" or "never had it"? Not sure why anyone would want it debate it down to into an inquisition anyway.

    The winds seem to be blowing in the direction that the new Tivo-D* box will have DLB's - and that is a good thing!
     
  2. Que

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    I don't know what you count as wave but, we had 68 all Unique user vote in the last 25 days. http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1866958#post1866958

    I like to post this on the 1st of the month but looks like a good time to do it now.

    DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x. 191 8.59%
    I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them. 353 15.88%
    I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK. 149 6.70%
    I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate. 1443 64.91%
    Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit. 87 3.91%
    Voters: 2223

    Replies 3,140
    Views 118,019


    Old DLB stats

    A must have! 2836 77.66%
    Don't really care about it. 179 4.90%
    Like the option but, Ok if it's not there. 637 17.44%
    Voters: 3652.

    Replies 2,965
    Views 146,826
     
  3. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Que, if I may ask you, how many unique posters have posted in the last twenty-five days? How many of them were new posters?

    A quick look at the members list suggests 11,750 unique members visited DBSTalk since November 1st, of whom 68 felt it necessary to post in this thread, according to your post. That appears to be .5% of the unique registered visitors and approximately .0004% of the total registered subscribers. Do I have that wrong?
     
  4. raott

    raott Hall Of Fame

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    I love the passive-aggressiveness on this site.
     
  5. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    :) .. You got me there, but what you say is what I was attempting to convey (more or less) .. :)

    It's not a feature available on the HR2x platform.
     
  6. jjohns

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    Isn't it grand?
     
  7. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Either way, it's all semantics .. If you are still using your HR10, then you have DLB .. If you chose to get an HR2x (that never had DLB), then you don't have DLB. Certainly DIRECTV neglected to add this feature that you desire.
     
  8. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    It's not a discussion without two sides now is it ;) Besides, I like DLB and hope to see it one day.
     
  9. jjohns

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    I believe the question at hand is "why" did D* not include it and we have determined that that is a well-kept secret.
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    Oh, and this brings up a favorite quote:

    :)
     
  11. kiljoy

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    While I disagree with your point, I can't find fault with your quote, Stuart.

    Tony
     
  12. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    To expect it to NOT be a well-kept secret is a mistake, IMHO. Regardless of the reason DIRECTV will not let us know why .. and "us" includes me, BTW. So sure ask the question .. I'll give you the same answer every time.

    And yeah, I'd love it if the HR2x had DLB .. I've been very happy with the ability to use the workarounds. But even if those weren't available I watch virtually everything recorded .. near-Live TV News or sports programming are probably the only exceptions. The most recent DLB workaround is great for 2 sports programs.
     
  13. Flyrx7

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    I don't really think it matters how much you try to diminish the want of many by using numbers like those as comparison. This site, as you know, has 135,523 +/- threads of various topics to take part in, and the DLB one is only one of them. There's plenty of items to look at for those 11,000 different people. I think .5% is pretty good, afterall. Another way to put up 'fantastic' numbers is to say that this thread, 1 of 135,000, only represents .00074% of the total threads to post in. So of .0004% of the list population posts in .00074% of the theads, that means ......um, where was I going with this?

    The fact of the matter is though, how many of those 135,000 + threads are 137 pages long or over 3100 posts? (not counting CE anticipation threads either) That doesn't even count the previous thread(s) concerning the lack of DLB.
    That in itself should speak to the weight (or is it wait :)) of the matter, I would think.

    Frank
     
  14. James Long

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    The top 10 posters in this thread have made 1243 of the 3153 posts so far.
    The top 20 posters have made 1813 posts.

    It seems that some people are extremely interested in the topic.
     
  15. jjohns

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    The secret is probably kept in a mayonaise jar somewhere in a dark room, not unlike how Mr. Krabs keeps his crabby patty recipe.
     
  16. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    To expand on that:

    287 unique posters
    163 posters with 2 or more posts
    118 w/3 or more
    59 w/10 or more
    34 w/25 or more
    17 w/50 or more
    11 w/75 or more
    7 w/100 or more

    .. And with this post, I'm one away from being tied for top poster .. :p
     
  17. sunking

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    Come on now. this whole 'its a big super duper trade secret why we didnt do DLB' seems a bit far fetched. If it wasn't given on purpose then all you say is that it would conflict with something down the road. Problem is, for most of the things down the road it seems DLB would be a prereq. People are turning what probably is just a case of nobody at a big corporation caring enough to even bother with the question into a great big super duper trade secret in which is the key to the stock price. I still maintain the position that it was a feature dropped because of time constraints for the initial release. Because that doesn't look good they have decided to just completely ignore it altogether. Lets be real here, its one little feature on a single product line. I honestly don't believe that everyone who has been in any sort of meeting where DLB has been discussed was told that none of this info leaves the room.

    Just my humble opinion.
     
  18. veryoldschool

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    The nice thing about an "opinion" is that it can be wrong, and/or changed later. ;)
     
  19. Doug Brott

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    Let's just say you are right about why DLB wasn't in the initial release .. what makes you think DIRECTV will make any kind of announcement that says that :confused:

    As for completely ignoring DLB, the workaround in the most recent release should be an indication that DLB is not forgotten .. progress is being made.
     
  20. inkahauts

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    Its not about seeing people criticizing Direct... Its the fact that most of the people that are criticizing Directv are simply winning and not saying anything that has any substance... I would love to see DLB come to the HR if for no other reason than to get rid of this thread... but it would make many people happy, so I see no reason philisopically for them to not add it...

    But why people think that its their god given right to have this feature, instead of making an argument as to why it should be added is sorely lacking common sense...
     
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