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What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 1, 2008.

What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

  1. DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x.

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  2. I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them.

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  3. I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK.

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  4. I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate.

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  5. Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit.

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  1. Jan 5, 2009 #3401 of 3895
    n3ntj

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    I noticed over Christmas that my parent's HD DVR from Time Warner actually has a modified dual live buffer feature. I can't believe their's has DLB and our HR2x series units from D* still lacks this needed feature. I almost am jealous of my parents..

    C'mon D*. Please implement DLB on the HR2x series!! We've been asking for this feature for over 2 years.
     
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    GrumpyBear

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    You may envy your parents DVR, I will bet good money you don't envy their overall service.
     
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    kanderna

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    Ah... should have read your sig first. Now it all makes sense.
     
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    Tom Robertson

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    The signature says it all... 5 more days...
     
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    GrumpyBear

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    I couldn't figure out who that was. I saw the name, but the Avatar was wrong, and thought it was somebody else. Had to look at the Salt Lake City to confirm. 0-16 talk about some REALLY cool history.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2009 #3406 of 3895
    spartanstew

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    Well, apparently evey unit does it different. On the DLB that I used on my old Directivo, you had to hit pause. If you didn't, when you switched, you'd be current with live TV which kind of defeats the purpose of the buffer part of DLB.
     
  7. Jan 5, 2009 #3407 of 3895
    Lord Vader

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    OK, if one were to hold an exam on the steps needed to do this or true DLB, who'd want to bet many would fail the exam, not having been able to remember exactly all the steps needed; whereas with DLB, it's tremendously simpler.
     
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    puffnstuff

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    What do you mean when you switch ? Everytime you switch tuners it should be back to live TV , I've never seen it work any other way . Is their a DVR that does auto pause ?
     
  9. Jan 5, 2009 #3409 of 3895
    spartanstew

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    Someone said there was.

    And if there's not one that does autopause, why did you ask me why you have to press pause? Obviously you have to press pause so that when you come back to that station, the program is right where you left off.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2009 #3410 of 3895
    spartanstew

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    It's only simpler to those that used DLB first.

    People that might get a DVR for the first time right now and start using the workaround would probably find it simpler than DLB if they suddenly went to that.

    DLB:

    Locate channel to watch
    pause
    swap tuners
    locate second channel
    pause
    switch
    press play

    each time thereafter:
    pause
    switch
    play

    WA:

    Locate channel to watch
    Record
    Locate second channel
    Record
    List
    Play
    List
    Play
    Previous

    each time thereafter:
    previous


    I don't see anything tremendously simpler about the first one. It seems simpler to you, because you're used to hitting pause, then switching tuners, then hitting play EVERY time you switch. Just like for someone used to the current way is used to hitting record, then list, then play.

    IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT PEOPLE.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2009 #3411 of 3895
    Steve

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    Nice summary.

    Actually folks with universal remotes with macro capability could construct a macro that takes the last two channels manually tuned to and executes steps 2-8 above automatically, using a PREV command in place of the "locate second channel" in step 3.

    /steve
     
  12. Jan 5, 2009 #3412 of 3895
    GrumpyBear

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    Get rid of all those pauses in the DLB Section. Nobody has to pause to swap tuners, you just press swap, and you go just go to the other tuner. You made DLB way to busy.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2009 #3413 of 3895
    dennisj00

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    No it's not that difficult, but there are tons of threads on this board that advocate the DVR doing things for YOU instead of you doing things to work around.

    The workaround comes up way short if your program goes beyond the scheduled time and you haven't padded enough, if you're short on available space. . . the buffers don't interfere with that space, and you have to delete multiple shows. Yes, maybe only a few seconds to do that BUT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!

    We have two tuners, we need two buffers, very simple, very easy.

    IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT, Give us a down arrow, a second buffer and we're done! Those that like the workaround can continue to use it! Everybody's happy.
     
  14. Jan 5, 2009 #3414 of 3895
    Mike Bertelson

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    Put one tuner on a channel and surf on the other.

    Say what you like but DLB as we know it works this way. It’s also one of the ways my family used DLB (in addition to the other ways already mentioned)

    The work around is completely impractical in the case. You have to go back to the list each time you want what’s on the “other tuner”.

    So yeah, it can be that difficult. :grin:

    Mike
     
  15. Jan 5, 2009 #3415 of 3895
    Doug Brott

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    I wouldn't take that bet ..
     
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    For exactly this reason , DLB has never auto paused that's what concerns me with Directv's work around .
     
  17. Jan 5, 2009 #3417 of 3895
    Doug Brott

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    Yes, "automatic" would make things a bit simpler. We don't have that as everyone knows. The workaround is great for actually watching 2 things live .. If you are really watching two things live. What many folks seem to be looking for is a way to bounce around .. perhaps anchoring on one program, perhaps not .. but to literally channel surf ..

    The workaround won't give you that and there is nothing in the HR2x that will make that work at present.
     
  18. Jan 5, 2009 #3418 of 3895
    Doug Brott

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    I don't really know why this is the case, but I suspect that DIRECTV's pause is similar to how a program is "paused" when you exit the program to Live TV or another recording.
     
  19. Jan 5, 2009 #3419 of 3895
    RCY

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    If you're convinced you only want to watch two specific programs, the workaround is a practical substitute. (Assuming you pad your programs in the case of sports. Another step, but not a difficult one.)

    But for anything resembling "surfing" its useless, IMO.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2009 #3420 of 3895
    Flyrx7

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    I find it humorous that people are trying to say that multiple button presses or universal remote macros to implement the DLB workaround as "not that difficult", or even saying that the work around is better. Your JMT isn't working on me. Down button is as simple as it gets. What part of that don't you understand?

    The ones stating that it isn't rocket science or that difficult to do then can go ahead a continue with their methods, as it appears to work for how they use it. I'll continue to hold out for true DLB. Sure it may take awhile, but I won't be going anywhere until we get it.
     
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